Chabad youths come to a playground at the President's level and offer sweet words to the children, if they read prayers with them. A post on Facebook that flooded the phenomenon received hundreds of comments, some encouraging the phenomenon and some opposing it. According to some parents, the State of Israel is a Jewish state and no harm was caused by this Children hear little about Israel's holidays and say a few verses. They even came out against the parents who opposed it, claiming that they oppose the religion itself and do not examine the phenomenon in its entirety.
If there is a child who wants to treat himself to sweets and not pray, he is not refused
Some of the parents said that the Chabad youth give out sweets to the children without any conditions in order to sweeten the children's holidays and teach them about the tradition and the holidays, but if there is a child who wants to be treated with sweets and not to pray, they do not refuse him.
Do not talk to strangers and do not go with those who offer them sweet things
In contrast, there were parents who claimed that in today's reality they educate their children not to talk to strangers and not to go with those who offer them sweet things. Beyond that, there were parents who claimed that it was impossible to talk to the children and try to influence them without their presence. Some saw it as missionary work and checked with the supporters whether they were ready for any content to be passed on to children without their consent. A debate has arisen regarding the types of content that is allowed to be passed on to children without the consent of the parents and whether different content is similar to prayers and conversation about the holidays.
Contrary to the values of the parents
One of the responses referred to the fact that older people influence children to do things contrary to the values of the parents. This response included an argument about what the parents' values are. Aren't the parents' values love your neighbor as yourself and respect your parents? And another response asks how can you know what the parents' values are, if you don't ask them?
"Would ultra-Orthodox people be ready for secular people to talk to their children about different topics?"
A recurring response is that the religious young people come to secular children and talk to them without the parents' knowledge. The question is whether the ultra-orthodox were ready for seculars to talk to their children about various topics, for example about the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the principles of evolution.
Yehuda Ginzburg, chairman of Chabad Haifa: We are in a generation that views religious educational activities with children with a negative eye
Yehuda Ginzburg, The chairman of Chabad Haifa commented on the phenomenon:
50 years ago in 1976 Rebbe Milobewitz suggested that children should pray to bring peace to the world. From 1943, during the time of the previous Rabbi of Chabad, there was a concept called Shabbat parties - when you say Psalms with children on Shabbat afternoon. Since then, in tens of thousands of synagogues around the world, you say Psalms with children on Shabbat afternoon. Since 1976, the Chabadim have been going out and saying verses with children and giving sweets.
We are in a generation that views religious educational activity with children with a negative eye. Whoever has a problem should say that he has a problem and no one will do it to him by force.
If a Yeshiva student had touched the child I could understand the problem. If you send a child alone to kindergarten you trust the child to play with friends. That's why I don't understand these anxieties. No one is forcing anyone.
Chabad youth may really want to bring the people closer to Judaism, but this is not the way. Give children candy and have them talk to strangers? As much as I want my child to learn about the Israeli holidays, I always tell him not to talk to strangers and not to take from any adult who does not know my words Metica. Chabad used to do an activity, invite people and whoever wanted came. But in playgrounds it's not okay.
Do activities in schools, etc., not in playgrounds
A welcome activity.
Kudos to the people who expose children to Judaism in the Land of Israel.
If someone is not interested in his children not being exposed to Judaism, he should explain to them why not go with them.
What's the fuss about? Who was hurt?
I saw it, they don't know you, a little Judaism wouldn't hurt
I am 45 already when I was young it was
The title is not decent and takes a position (an inciting and illegitimate position)
Chabad operate according to the law and the proof that this has been done in Israel in all of Israel for fifty years! Every year, all year!
And you know that legally there is no factual claim here, but you are trying by spreading hatred, and incitement (cult, pedophilia, masinan, solicitation) to try to "deport" by creating a commotion with the aim of creating uproar and panic.
Too bad, violence serves no one.
Fears and anxieties should be treated by professionals
Chabad are part of the community
The days when Judaism and the Jews had to hide are over
Any organization, whether with the Scouts or Hashomer Hatzair or Chavd or parents who want to do children's activities in the neighborhood, can freely hand out creatives or waffles to all the children. As long as it is done in Persia and not in secret. Be normal and educate the children how to behave outside. as simple as that.
This country is going crazy. I am 50 years old, in my childhood Rabbi Grossman's Chabad camps were opened, they were the most invested camps I have ever seen, the camp I enjoyed the most, trips every day, things that no one else could come close to (twice a month a flight in the skies of Israel, half the month trips, Yes, also to the Western Wall and the Chabad village. What can I tell you? Not exactly a disaster) so much so that when they came to register us I would falsify our age downwards 🙂 So I memorized a little bit of minashna and prayed in the morning. Today I am a high-tech person, secular, but if someone asks me to put on tefillin or complete a minyan - I will understand what and why. Come on, relax!
There is also a missionary sect that closes the Horeb Crossing, falsely adopted the Israeli flag after criticism that went with black flags and the flags of the enemy, and then suddenly switched to the Israeli flag in a frenzy. They go around shouting verses and slogans and disturbing children and adults who don't think like them. Absolute harassment. Pollution and noise and vandalism. Thousands of stickers with slogans are pasted all over the city, graffiti on public property such as the walls of buildings and benches and garbage cans and the question:
Why aren't people in jail for destroying property??
Why are there council members who support the bundling of municipal property??
with a rationale
Looks like harassment
Suspected harassment must be reported
A new Guinness record (for the Guinness Book of Records) of nonsense can be found in the comments to the article. pearls of ignorance in the whole subject and even in subjects related to difficulty. Hebrew is really * not * standard and also a lack of flight and practical criticism.
Now.. regarding the topic of the article: If that was the case - teach them also the fact that the world is full of fake liars and delusions! Give them verses of all kinds - for or against. This is what the secular teachers (and most parents) know and this is different from the dream sages who appeared here.
You are not a secular atonement
Wow, what extreme reactions. Yes, I agree that tradition must be taught in the schools, but as said, there is no necessity and I am a Greek person, nothing has happened without a Jewish child understanding a little about his religion even if he is secular at home. You're right, only that it's half a verse, the other half of the verse is and in God's ways he will go, so before you write, know what's true for the rest, if you're Jewish, a little religion won't hurt
A non-Greek secular person is the autocorrect that was wrong unfortunately
A non-Zionist, non-educational missionary movement. to throw from Haifa at all and quickly
Well done Michal Grover
Chabad is a missionary sect
As such, they are not Jews but pseudo-Jews who have in fact created for themselves their own faction in which they have a messiah and have a missionary mission, two completely Christian ideas and it will not be far today that they will become complete Christians
I wonder what they would do if I went to the children of Chabad and gave them candy if they listened to my stories about gays and lesbians
Don't need your help
It happened to us on Saturday at the playground in Shaprintzak, and we also know it from the playground near the previous house in Kiryat Eliyahu. My problem with this is:
1) Solicitation - children are coaxed to say verses for candy (bad educational message and values)
2) Do not talk to the parents first
3) In mixed neighborhoods like the one we lived in - half or even more of the children in the playground are not Jewish at all. How are they supposed to feel when they come and shout at them content like that Jews are the chosen people? Even those who believe in this (not me) can agree that there is a way of the land, and that it is appropriate to treat everyone who is respectful.
In short, even if the guys claim that this is a positive act in which they do not have to participate - this is an ugly and defiant phenomenon. There is disrespect for parents, disrespect for non-Jewish residents, and disrespect for borders and maintaining an inclusive and balanced atmosphere. The law in Israel forbids Missionaries, and Judaism itself is traditionally not missionary. Chabad would do well if they concentrated on teaching their students the importance of the way of the land, and loving your neighbor as yourself, and a positive attitude towards the non-Jews who live with us.
The chairman of Chabad, in my opinion, was wrong to say that we live in a generation that views religious activity with children in a negative light. The generation is excellent and thirsts for the Jewish tradition and religion, but the left-wing media that has reared its ugly head in our country floods the subject of religion with a negative angle in order to create antagonism in the readers towards the right, the religion and the ultra-Orthodox.
These lessons should have been taught as part of the curriculum like math and English are taught and not in a playground.
Again the "leftist" media is to blame. The children are not thirsty for religion and tradition. Every child is brought up in the spirit of his family's values and no educational or religious framework is allowed to "teach" him how to drive. This is called coercion. A man by his faith shall live. Didn't you learn it?
Didn't you learn about that?
The children must not be accustomed to accepting everything from strangers, that's how it starts, and tomorrow a pedophile will give them no, laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and dangerous
very true
It's hard to believe that there are still innocent parents who think that it's just some candy and some Jewish values. Chabad is a movement that has set itself the goal of bringing secular people closer to it so that they will repent. This is what happened to my nephew, when Chabadniks started small, and then they gradually wore him down. Today he is a dos dos with all that implies and is quite lost in his ways of life. Beware of Chabadniks with sweets "And a little" Jewish values. If you want your children to know the values of Judaism, be the ones who buy them for them. Be in control and stay away from Chabad stories..
One of the reasons we returned from Carmel Castle to Haifa. A terrifying city with few playgrounds that by the time you arrive you can't really play because grown men offer candy to children, the little ones don't understand and want white sugar too, without the candy no one would listen to them, it's beyond missionary, it's brainwashing.
This is not proper and for heaven's sake. It's immoral to do this in a public playground, but go talk to them...
To think that I will authorize a foreign man to talk to my children and in addition give him legitimacy to bring a child white sugar...plagiarism and a strong influence on the mind and values of the child without his parent by his side.
Sending a child to a playground, not to a kindergarten, there is nothing amusing about this madness. The seculars cannot do the opposite because there are no playgrounds in the heavily ultra-orthodox cities, there is no budget, so they come to our playgrounds.
It also happened to Einstein. Two ultra-Orthodox came and tried to talk to the 3-year-old!!! mine, without my permission or consent. They really chased him!
So I yelled at them and they argued with me about it.
I had to threaten the police if they didn't stay away from the playground. Just horrible!
Why threaten?
Contact
Let's start there, you will discover much greater horrors.
Parents send their children to the playground to play, not to learn verses.
Those who want to learn verses, send their children to kollel.
Dear Yehuda Ginzburg, I would like to say that every child in a playground is easy prey for anyone passing by on the street, and the citizens of the State of Israel should guard their souls against sending children to a playground, lest religious-Christians try to expose them to content that their parents chose not to expose them to?
And what about cases where the applicant is a foreign man, and not a child? Why ignore this phenomenon?
And if it is two men, on a Friday afternoon, who prey on easy and naive prey outside the school gates, and persuade minor children to commit acts that their parents have chosen as not part of their lifestyles?
Ungrateful, that you are in the sand with some problem, you are looking for a private house to stay, feel safe and eat for free.
Suddenly here the skin becomes like a chameleon
Stupid by birth and uneducated by choice.
Just shameful.
You see that you are the product of zero Bible lessons at school
According to what is written here, it is an illegal missionary activity of brainwashed men whose goal is to bring as many "believers" as possible to the sect they belong to, under the guise of "religious education".
Why aren't articles made about the Christian missionaries who walk around the promenades and parks and hand out such messianic books and try to spread their religion?
Illegal missionary activity is pushing hallucinations down the children's throats as if their name is up to them and deliberately hiding it from the parents.
And by the way, this is an invention of brainwashed men, so wake up your IQ