The sinking of the train in Haifa - demand to clear the track from the coastline - home page

1. Attached is a link to a letter-petition to be sent directly to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, the Minister of Finance, the Minister of Transportation, the CEO of the railway and the mayor of Haifa.
   Sign and share
   http://www.hasdera.org.il/group_messages/40.htm

2. The movement for the return of the city to Haifa (HLA) proposed the next tunnel alternative to the electric train.

   This proposal has many advantages over the subsidence pushed by the city of Haifa/the Israeli government, but in my opinion, if you are already proposing a tunnel alternative, The next offer It even has many more advantages for Haifa.

   The stars indicate possible stations on the proposed route, which will be shorter than the route of the LAH: on the Sea Road (which will directly serve the residents of the Mount Carmel neighborhoods) and/or a station on Sderot Zion/Tschernihovski (which will directly serve the residents of Western Carmel and Hader Alyion). These stations are closer Many neighborhoods have a population greater than the Bat Galim station (which will be canceled).

   Access to these new stations will be by public transportation up to street level. The train station will be built below street level. There will also be an underground car park (which can also be used as a public emergency shelter).
   Access to the railway level will be by high-speed elevators (the height of Sea Road is about 70 meters above sea level. The height of Tschernihovsky Street is about 200 meters above sea level).

3. Political struggles, huge budgets, consultants who earn millions and continuous delays in schedules; These are some of the problems in the railway electrification project. What is included in the giant project?
   Link to the article on the Walla News site

4. The project will be executed by the National Roads Company

   Link to the article on The Marker website:
   Compromise between Katz and the train: infrastructure for electric trains on the existing tracks

   Link to the main information page - the train struggle in Haifa

5. Sending inspectors to deal with a political issue is a violation of the law. The inspector has the authority to act
   Only against an authorizing municipal by-law, the inspector is forbidden to speak at all about demonstrations
   These permits are outside the scope of the inspector and the duty of a police officer to send inspectors against citizens
   Innocents are the main reason why Israel does not have a local police but a national one
   He feared that an enthusiastic and enthusiastic mayor would send police officers against citizens to fulfill his wishes
   the political ones

   • Haifa Film Festival: no entry for those holding flyers. The article by Revital Hovel

   Every citizen has the right to express himself on the street and on the sidewalk when the main idea is freedom
   These are anchored in the basic law of human dignity and freedom, one should not limit the freedom of the person except
   according to an express law

   The right to congregate without asking for a license is given to every 49 people out of 50 congregants and above the law
   Considers gatherings of over 50 people as an assembly under the dome of the sky and only for that they need a license

   I do not believe that the city council is the appropriate stage, I am also satisfied with this legal advisor
   Acts with clean hands and is not involved in the early consultations, therefore a complaint to the police
   of those who were evicted or of elected officials on behalf of those who were treated not against the inspectors but against
   The senders of the borders are ready to be among those who contact the police and other bodies to the extent
   and organize the material

   Happy holiday

6. Haifa residents who wanted to demonstrate at the film festival against the electrification of the train discovered that the inspectors prevented the entry of those holding flyers.
   Revital Hoval covered this event in the Haaretz newspaper.
   Here is a link to the article

7. A response to Dr. Suchard's proposal to sink the track along the existing route. There is no doubt that this is the ideal solution, the problem is that it is not realistic! Not because of groundwater or engineering problems that we know how to solve, but because of statutory, property, legal and practical problems, chief among them - the paralysis of the track to the north For a few years during the settlement works. There is no practical solution for this, and the Galilee Cities and Settlements Forum is indignant about it, and rightly so, there are other problems, we have listed them enough times, and it is a shame to continue to deal with the settlement in the existing route. This was the mistake of the municipality, and in the end it led to the agreement
   The awkward mediation

8. [quote="The Ministry of Environmental Protection":2u57barl]Live editor's note here: We contacted the Ministry of Environmental Protection in order to get their opinion on the fear of exposure to electromagnetic radiation.
   His answer is very interesting, since it refers to the standard of 2 milligauss as a mandatory standard.

   The response of the Ministry of Environmental Protection:
   "The Ministry of Environmental Protection makes sure to implement a series of measures that prevent dangerous exposure to a magnetic field. According to the Ministry's data, after the implementation of these measures, there will be no tenants at all who will be exposed to a magnetic field that exceeds the standard of 2 milligauss."

   In the country there is no binding standard for the exposure threshold to LMG radiation. Based on the growing scientific evidence, the Ministry of Environmental Protection rightly demands an exposure threshold of 2 milligauss daily average. The Ministry of Health also demands similar and even stricter requirements.
   On the other hand, the electrification plan clearly refers to an exposure threshold of 10 milligauss. 5 times higher.

   For some reason the Ministry of Environmental Protection gave the system a construction permit (which was previously published on this website) despite the contradiction between the plan documents and the requirement presented here.

   It is not clear what data was presented to the ministry when it came to approve the type permit and why it did not protect the public as stated by it.

9. The engineering group of the movement for the return of the city to Haifa collected and processed several ideas for the solution of removing the buffer. For each alternative there are a number of secondary alternatives which should be examined in more depth. For example, the idea of ​​a station in the center of Carmel is one of the sub-alternatives. In addition to it, there are alternatives that preserve an underground station for the underground city service instead of the Carmel, as well as other changes in the route so that Meninhor cannot be ruled out so quickly.
   Similarly, the deposition alternative has other sub-alternatives. For example, from the moment that freight trains will only pass through the Valley Railroad, which is being built, Israel Railways will be able to flex its strict requirements for the sinking project, which will make it cheaper and easier to carry out.
   In short, only a thorough examination of alternatives will lead to a preferred solution. It is still too early to rule out alternatives.

   The idea of ​​the light rail going up the Carmel is very interesting. Until today we knew that trains have a problem overcoming such steep gradients. Could the owner of the idea explain how he intends to overcome the slope?

10. That the train will arrive at the kindergarten?
    Which helicopter service will lift her to kindergarten?
    Sorry, if those are the ideas then I believe vodka is jet raw material.
    How can you conduct a reasonably reasonable fight with manufacturers of tasteless solutions?

11. Live editor's note here: We contacted the Ministry of Environmental Protection in order to get their opinion on the fear of exposure to electromagnetic radiation.
    His answer is very interesting, since it refers to the standard of 2 milligauss as a mandatory standard.

    The response of the Ministry of Environmental Protection:
    "The Ministry of Environmental Protection makes sure to implement a series of measures that prevent dangerous exposure to a magnetic field. According to the Ministry's data, after the implementation of these measures, there will be no tenants at all who will be exposed to a magnetic field that exceeds the standard of 2 milligauss."

12. Water infiltration will delay and make construction more expensive, but it can indeed be overcome.
    Check the train route carefully, and find out what width is needed at the time of the deposition. In sections within the city, as well as in the section along Hubert Humphrey Street, it is not possible to carry out subsidence parallel to the existing track.

13. The track is not superfluous - a train is an important and efficient means of transportation. The problem is that the railway is a buffer between the city and the sea, and the problem will be more serious if, God forbid, the terrible overhead electrification plan is carried out. All this will be solved when the rail sinks below the surface of the ground.
    There is an engineering solution to prevent water infiltration, which of course is not the place to go into detail here. Also, the line is not idle during the works: there is enough space for the sunken route between the current track and the coastal road, so that it will be possible to use the existing track until the work is finished - then the existing track will finish its role and it will be removed from its place and transported to its next mission - on the way to Eilat or the border Jordan.
    Right now, the important thing is to unite and concentrate all the effort in preventing overhead electrification. But as soon as we succeed in this common and important struggle - and when I see the enthusiasm and determination of the activists, I am sure that we are on the right path - we must work for the right alternative: sinking near the existing route, and establishing a light rail, partly elevated and partly elevated, from the Carmel beach to the center of Carmel, with stations in the neighborhoods along the way, and later on its connection to the new stadium and the Carmel Castle on one side and the Technion and the Eagle on the other.
    The tunnel alternative is preferable to sinking, if at all, only for the residents of the center of Carmel, and even that is doubtful: there will certainly be many of them who would prefer traveling by light rail and changing to a heavy train at the Carmel beach, rather than diving in one of the giant elevators needed to transport them from the center of Carmel deep to the station in the bowels of the earth , and back, if at all it is possible to build elevators of the required size and depth. The residents of Neve David, Kiryat Sheprincek, Carmel Zarfati, and in the second phase also the residents of many other neighborhoods, for whom it is clear that it is not possible to build stations for the heavy train and terrible elevators to them, will have a much better quality of life when a light, comfortable and fast train passes through their neighborhood. The residents of Kiryat Eliezer and Bat Galim, who have longed for urban renewal in their neighborhoods for years, are also entitled to have the rail connection from their place of residence to the rest of the country left intact (and sunk, of course), and not be taken away from them, for no injustice on their part.

14. We have one extra rail, please don't add another one.
    The sedimentation solution is poor: water infiltration problems in different places. Disabling the line to the north of the country for the duration of the construction.
    A realistic alternative: the tunnel.

15. I had the honor to participate in the meeting of the movement to return the city to Haifa in syncopation. All the speakers were united in the position that the overhead electrification plan is a bad plan that will cause fatal damage to the city, and there is no debate about that. This is an urban disaster that must be fought with all the political and public power. The OMC movement, Citizens for Proper Administration and Social and Legal Justice, of which I am one of the members of its board, has been a partner in the struggle from the beginning, and even today we are fighting for the removal of the railroad buffer along the entire coast of the city.
    So we know what is not, and now the question is what is. And in search of the answer, we must look at the situation with a comprehensive vision, which sees the good of all the city's residents looking to the future, as those who believe that Haifa can be a prosperous city - a social, business and tourist center, which does not fall in its level from other important cities in the world.
    It seems that the correct overall solution for the city, in an overall and long-term view, is:
    (1) The subsidence of the railway from the Hoof Carmel station, at least until the exit from the lower city.
    (2) Adding another track in the southern part of the sunken route, in favor of light rail. The track will start from the Hoof HaCarmel station, and in the area of ​​the Meridian Hotel, it will turn right - where a station will be built - and then it will go along a route that is partly uphill and partly from Monhar (according to the terrain route) through Neve David, Shaar Aliya, Kiryat Sheprincek, Ramat Shaul and Carmel Zarfati, until Gan Ham, where it will be possible Connect to Carmelite. In the future, it will be possible to extend the track south to the new stadium and the Carmel Castle, and on the other side to Romema, Neve Shanan and the Technion.
    (3) The area of ​​Hecht Park, above the sunken train, will be a tourist center that will not fall in level, for example, from Ramblas Blvd. in Barcelona, ​​and will even have an advantage thanks to the natural resource of the beach that stretches along its entire length.
    (4) The parking lot on the Carmel beach will be able to serve those who arrive in Haifa by car, and continue into the city by light rail. Many places will be freed up, since the residents of the city who travel by train outside of it, will be able to leave their cars at home, travel to the Hoof Carmel station by light rail, and from there continue by train to Hafcem district.

    This solution meets most needs, and at reasonable costs. It is also a necessary solution from considerations of preventing traffic jams, reducing air pollution, safety, parking spaces, and more - especially in light of the planned construction (and some of it is already being carried out) in all of the aforementioned neighborhoods. The tunnel alternative, on the other hand, will not be cheaper, and will only benefit the residents of central Carmel (if they win an elevator to the bowels of the earth), at the expense of the residents of all the other neighborhoods I mentioned, who will not be able to benefit from the project, since it is clear that it is not possible to establish a heavy rail station in every neighborhood, and no one is proposing it either, and at the expense of the residents of K. Eliezer- Bat Galim, that the existing train station will be taken from them.

    True, we are not Paris and probably won't be soon. But a light rail is already operating in Jerusalem, serving both the city's residents and its many guests from Israel and the world. In Tel Aviv, we were informed last week about the start of work on the construction of a light rail. And who is left behind? Let's not be left behind when the train passes through the station. But first of all, we will all meet on Wednesday 30.5 at 18:00 in Kamel, and sign affidavits of opposition to overhead electrification.

    If you want, and if we all act together - this is not a fairy tale!

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