(Hai Pa) - Throughout Haifa, as you know, there are parking spaces designed for short-term parking, of up to 20 minutes, free of charge ('20 minutes Zoz'). The purpose of this initiative is to allow residents to find a parking space easily when they want to make quick arrangements, and to clear it quickly for those who follow them.
Haifa Deputy Mayor Yisrael Savion proposed to extend the time period - 20 minutes, because senior citizens find it difficult to stay within the 20 minute time limit in these parking spaces due to mobility difficulties, and even when they exceeded by only two or three minutes they were fined NIS 250.
On Tuesday 29/10/24, a committee for road safety was held, the chairman of the committee, Avihu Han, the deputy mayor of Haifa, refused to bring to a vote Savion's proposal to extend the permitted parking time at the "20 minutes move" sign to 30 minutes without allowing the professionals examine the issue.
In the committee, the deputy mayor, Israel Savion, proposed to extend the allowed parking time at the "20 minutes move" sign to 30 minutes, for the benefit of senior citizens and those with disabilities to 40 minutes. Savion hoped to promote the issue, which is especially important to senior citizens and those with disabilities, and he even discussed this two days earlier with Han to put the issue on the agenda and approve it.
"The so-called proposal could harm trade and business in the city of Haifa"
The public representative on the committee, Dr. Robert Eshak, pointed out that the so-called proposal could harm trade and business in the city and reduce sales by about 30 percent. Savion, who was surprised by the puzzling claim, replied that the original idea of the "20 minutes move" sign was intended to benefit businesses, and that according to In his opinion, extending the parking time will actually help businesses and not hurt them.
Despite the words of the public representative who offered to carry out a study on the subject, Savion asked Hahn to bring the proposal to a vote, but was surprised by Hahn's answer, who refused on the grounds that further research should be done on the subject and announced that the discussion on this subject would be postponed to the next committee to be held in January 2025, which caused Savion to leave the meeting in anger .
The following is Israel Savion's proposal: The "retired lobby faction" in the city council put forward a proposal as follows:
- Many inquiries from young residents, veterans and the disabled received that 20 minutes to move is too short a time.
- Due to the short time, reports of NIS 250 were stolen
- The applicants see the short time as an unfair money squeeze
- Therefore we request to extend the time to 30 minutes for all residents
- Extend for the disabled to 40 minutes - a detailed and reasoned explanation will be presented at the meeting
- The change does not involve expenses
The response of Avihu Han, chairman of the road safety committee:
The Road and Transportation Safety Committee chaired by me, is a professional committee with various disciplines such as: the Israel Police, the Road and Transportation Safety Authority, professional officials, municipal employees, professional public representatives in the field, council members and deputy mayors. The committee is a statutory committee and its purpose is to discuss all aspects related to safety and transportation aspects in the city. The deputy mayor of Sabion asked to bring his proposal to the committee for discussion and this was done.
The discussion was held in a professional and respectful manner, in the committee references were made both among the professionals and the members of the council and the deputy mayors that accepting the proposal as it was presented could have significantly harmed the business owners in the city because it could significantly reduce the turnover of buyers who come to the business and it is known that the small businesses are an important engine of growth for the city !
It was agreed to allow the professionals to examine the issue and prepare a professional opinion within a month with a recommendation to the city management on the issue including required alternatives to reduce the fines imposed on the residents. I am sorry that Deputy Mayor Savion did not accept this and left the meeting.
Savion as deputy mayor with administrative responsibility is important for him to understand that decisions must be made after a professional examination that considers all the social, economic and safety aspects.
Hello, I'm turning to Han, I voted for you out of faith and hope that you have sensitivity to the environment and people. I am both a senior citizen and disabled and the parking limited to 20 minutes for people like me is indeed problematic. I would appreciate it if you would be flexible and sensitive to Savion's proposal, which has a lot of logic and consideration for the residents of Haifa, where public parking is very difficult anyway. thanks. Hope for understanding
I don't have a problem with these parking lots, I have a serious problem with their stupid execution.
Free or paid parking spaces for these 20-minute parking spaces were expropriated, instead of establishing new designated parking spaces. People who live in the streets where there are these parking spaces, most of them already have a parking shortage, find themselves in an even greater hardship.
I don't have a problem with these parking lots, I have a serious problem with their stupid execution.
Free or paid parking spaces for these 20-minute parking spaces were expropriated, instead of establishing new designated parking spaces. People who live in the streets where there are these parking spaces, most of them already have a parking shortage, find themselves in an even greater hardship.
There is a 20 minute complex near the post office on Moriah St. There is also a small cafe near the post office. One day I sat there and saw an inspector sitting with his girlfriend, taking pictures of every parked car and after 22 minutes he writes a report. Completely legal, but what happens next stinks. After about an hour and a half, the inspector escorted his girlfriend to her parked car... How could he not??? In the 20-minute compound, drive and move... I warned him and he ordered me not to poke my nose into matters that don't belong to me. In my humble opinion, that's rude.
Parking p20 It is recorded on the sign that even a disabled vehicle must leave within the defined time and reports are recorded for the disabled.
For information, the disabled parking law prevails over municipal bylaws! And the reports are invalid
Does that mean that a disabled person is allowed to take a parking space that is intended for quick change for the whole day because he is disabled?
Say there is no limit to your insolence. But okay, this is just another reason to cancel the project if it will be used
Only the privileged disabled with the luxury car who pay a few thousand shekels for the fictitious certificate
You have NIS 200 for a new car and you don't have NIS 15 to pay for parking. Aren't you a little ashamed?!
Savion is right. They really don't understand the codes of the disabled Rabbi Shishim
People who walk very slowly. The marker is very important until you move and you have to go back
Why are you ahead of those people who have walking codes? I know the codes intimately. Hesa, who was a great sprinter and agile in his youth, today walking is really difficult for him and he has no choice but to park very close to any place that will be close to shopping or to his errands. Please try to understand them. That they bring documents from Dr. Diedar about the difficulty of each object. Please try to put yourself in the shoes of that disabled person and feel
like him
Great offer Savion. But what to do that each committee has 20 disciplines that prevent it from making a correct decision or even discussing it. That's how it is: 20 Jews, 100 opinions, and that's in the small...
An optimization proposal that can help those adults / those with disabilities. That the vehicle they drive will be indicated with a certificate and records of the municipality that it is a vehicle of an adult, let's say over 70 years of age or of people with reduced mobility. Then the reports provided will give an "additional extended time" of 10 minutes.
Haifa is a young city!!! Old people who will move to old people's homes, including the city pensioners.
Dean Dean, insulting and stupid comment. indicates a minimal lack of understanding. Veterans drive the economy. They are an economic market segment for restaurants, cafes, theaters and more. Without us this market will die.
And I have a suggestion. If you don't want to reach our extreme old age, you have all kinds of options...
23% elderly people rule the council call it gerontocracy
The rule of the elderly that hurts the young to provide themselves with more economic benefits
This is how they brought us to a huge housing crisis and who benefits from it? Owners of apartments for rent and sale. Who are they? the elderly
Why were all comments deleted?
Because they told you the truth to your face that a 20-minute walk is bad for the city and that public transportation should be promoted and not given prizes to the rich of Haifa to park for free?!
That the public transportation adapts itself to the disabled and parents with babies and that the municipality starts adjusting the stations and the height of the sidewalk to the public transportation, then believe me that the majority will ride it. And I say this as a mother of 2 that it is intolerable to wait for the bus with a 3-year-old child and a baby at the station where you are dying of heat in Kif and that the rain flies up and down in the winter until the bus arrives and you want to get on and you can't because the driver can't enter the station because someone decided to stop his car there And even if the driver beeps no, it still doesn't interest him. And after you have already boarded, then in most cases there is no designated place for parents with children and then you stand in the disabled area if there is no disabled person and if there are not a million other people standing there. Our youth are not really interested if there are old people getting on the bus or disabled people getting on or mothers with babies. So what you wrote is disconnected from reality and it seems that you don't travel by public transport at all, the 20 minutes Zoz helps a lot of people who are not the wealthiest of the city to go to the supermarket for a second to get milk or to go to the post office for a second to take out a package or just for a second to buy falafel and voila it was busy and you didn't have time to prepare food.
Today a car is not only for the rich people. There are small and cheap cars, such as electric bicycles. So please don't confuse Derek with the rich.
I'm not confusing anything, the rich who buy cars for hundreds of thousands of shekels and don't have 15 shekels to pay for parking
Believe me, you are exactly the ugly face of the Israeli.
Like those on vacation in a 5-star hotel that cost tens of thousands of shekels and whine that it costs them to park in the National Bank of Israel
You are the hallucinatory generation.
Disabled people with walking disabilities get adapted vehicles through National Insurance or other systems designed for this, it does not mean at all that these people have a lot of money. The problem in general is the lack of parking in the city at all, 20-minute parking came at the expense of regular parking, which was lacking anyway, and this is the main problem. Even if a disabled person wants to park in a paid parking lot many times he has no choice because there is no parking at all and he must park as close as possible to the place he arrived at... public transportation that is simply atrocious in the State of Israel is nothing to talk about, not only in Haifa. , buses don't arrive at all, not that they don't arrive on time, but simply don't arrive and this happens all over the country, so how can you trust public transportation at all?
In Haifa, the municipality must start inventing parking solutions all over the city. There are almost no places where you can get to and park without a problem... There are private parking lots in some places whose prices are higher than north of Tel Aviv and in other places there are 2-3 parking lots and hundreds of people come there every day... Why are other municipalities looking for Parking solutions for their residents and help with parking prices in the city center for residents in Haifa, right? Haifa is one of the largest cities in Israel, and also among the oldest, but the behavior of the municipality towards residents with vehicles is simply horrible...