The railway tunnel: Haifa municipality embarks on a fight over subsidence and tunneling as a condition for the electrification of the tracks - the full document • Commentary

Hello to viewers of the article and to those interested in the topic
Following on from my previous response and Dvir Langer's current article, I must emphasize that the path chosen by the Haifa Municipality will not lead it to prevent the tracks from the Carmel Beach hotels and south of it on the ground. If the Tel/65/b plan is also approved, it will perpetuate the tracks on the ground in the This, including the overhead electrification, includes acoustic walls and a new station building on the ground at the HaCarmel Beach station. Includes severe traffic problems at the Matam intersection due to giving priority to the private vehicle instead of public transportation as I mentioned in my previous response.
The only way to prevent this is for the Municipality of Haifa to join the petition that was submitted in order to have Tel/65/A revoked.
This procedure recreates a procedure for examining alternatives, which will allow finding an alternative in which the tracks will not remain on the ground, and will also allow the residents of the north, the Kiryat and Neve Shanan and its immediate surroundings, all of whom are residents of Haifa, to significantly reduce their travel time to the south.
The insistence of individual elements in the municipality on the boulevard prevents them from joining the existing petition that would disqualify Tel/65/a, which is bad for all the residents of the north, including Haifa, which is supposed to bear the title of the capital of the north.
I appeal to those of you, who have contacts with members of senior positions in the city council, to contact them in order to prevent the approaching catastrophe.
I will be ready to meet at any time, and convince that this is the only way to avoid it.
There is a very short window of time left to respond to the petition!!!

Dov Halevi - former manager of the railway's planning department, and later an external consultant for the railway and for this program

Hello and thanks to all who responded,

Yesterday we submitted to the High Court "a request to add the municipality's letter" to the petition to the High Court that we submitted (expected hearing on July 24.7.2024, XNUMX).

For those interested, you can view the short (and in my opinion interesting) document here -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U7Vo1I4H0m97fzsWjEZKArHsxvg2SIh4/view

Supports the tunnel alternative. Cheers for promoting the topic!

I did not understand. All these years talk about the "train buffer" without taking into account that as long as there is no alternative to connect the train from the south, from Tel Aviv to Haifa and the north during landfill or tunneling or any other alternative, it is impossible to deal with the so-called "train buffer"

The ban is a colossal waste of money
which does not take into account the indolence of the north

From what the experts describe in the comments and in the article, it seems that the railroad and the government are determined to harm Haifa. They are shown a much better alternative of a tunnel, but the officials in Jerusalem turn a deaf ear and added to this damage a cliché and the failed city engineer Waterman who really demanded that the railroad continue to cause huge damage to Haifa with the electrification and with the huge station that will destroy the beach The Carmel as described to us by an expert engineer who worked for Israel Railways Dov Halevi.
It is recommended to read the damages that will be caused by the plans that the promoters describe that will literally destroy the beach
Why not stop and return the tunneling program????
They have already done the Carmel tunnels in a short time and maybe we will finally get large and comfortable train stations
Like in Europe in the city center instead of wasting time traveling to two small docks in Carmel Beach!

Paniyas in Haifa are not ready
After all, electrifying a track will cause grief to the laminate of the track, won't it?
Is Father Khushi ready to take a risk?

A tunnel will cost a huge fortune and it does not seem that the state in this situation will allocate money for it, instead it is possible to build dozens of pedestrian bridges over the tracks and make a direct connection from the Carmel to the sea

Supports the Hammanhor proposal up to the center of the bay. will allow the fastest transportation for the residents of Haifa, the Gulf and the Galilee and will remove the railway tracks from the Haifa beaches and above all will prevent the electrification along the Haifa beaches

In short, they take our natural landscape and destroy it with concrete. I enjoy watching the scenery when I travel by train. I don't want to see gray concrete.
Regarding the electrification of the train, it is much better. Understands even the streets of the train are already on electricity.

I am in favor of any solution that keeps the sea front as clean and open as possible. There are almost no more open beaches left in the country and everything possible should be done to prevent the destruction of Haifa beach even more than it is already destroyed (military, etc.).
Also, the Galilee longs for a faster connection with the center. The Galilee was badly damaged in the current war and we need to think about our future as well.

Folk moves to finish or start
1. The grain
2. An old Egged Bat Galim switchboard
3. Dolphin bridge intersection
4. Bat Galim casino building
5. Nazareth light rail
6. Cruise to Acre
7. Gesher Bat Galim, Teilat Huldah Rambam Siyum
8. Haifa metropolis bike lanes
9. Svedra tunnel train or transfer through the Carmel tunnels
10. Beautiful sailing center Bat Galim Allenby
11. The Stella Maris cable car is part of public transportation and the addition of cable cars
12. Lower City Development
13. Opening the city to the sea .. a marina around the city
14. The opening of the German Colony Boulevard to the sea
15. Improvement of urban appearance, strengthening of buildings, evacuation, construction
16. Electrification of all vehicles and public transportation
17. Making places accessible to the disabled
18. Sea Research Building, improving visibility and sea view
19. Construction in gradual height... to allow the sea view and not block it
20. Bicycle and electric scooter rental throughout the city promotion
21. Polluting factories, making them non-polluting or moving them
22. Wonderful international airport
23. International cruise from Haifa to other countries of the world
24. Railway improvement of carriages and electrification
25. Extension of Hecht Park and stretching it at the beginning and end
26. Promotion of music, art and fusion between cultures
27. Mobile libraries.. an abstract idea.. mobile vans of libraries for renting books with coffee and internet points throughout the city
28. Health promotion and the health system in the city
29. Water sports
30. Amusement park attractions and such
31. Promotion of green energy, solar wind, sea waves and more
32. Cycle
33. Solve the problem of pigs and dog poop in a proper way
34. Thanks

As I wrote in response to all the articles on this website and others, including to members of the public, there is and will never be sedimentation along the coast, in ground with groundwater, a future rise in sea level, fuel pipelines and leaving the existing route inaccessible to 60 percent of Haifa residents who are required to make long trips to the train station (about 20 minutes from most of the Carmel ridge, as well as Usafia, Dalia, Nesher).
Just as the Carmel tunnels were carried out in 3 years, the tunneling of the existing 2 tracks and the addition of 2 future tracks must be promoted in a similar way to the Petah bridge at the Carmel tunnels. A gradual rise in the Carmel Castle area, moving the Carmel Beach station to the west and opening an entrance to the railway tunnels in the Wadi Azov area adjacent to the Shmuel Arad Bridge, from there to a multi-level underground station in Wadi HaGivori that will serve all of Carmel, to the Haifa Bay station that will in the future serve its redevelopment into huge neighborhoods and from there to the north.
There is no sense in leaving the train on the coastal route, which is also climatically problematic, also takes up space for development and promenades, also crosses the downtown and will soon with huge fences of electricity poles block our entire coastline like the picture in the article, also adds 15 minutes to the travel time to serve Bat Galim and the lower city that can be served by a suburban train that will connect to the station in Nahal HaGivori and to the station in Haifa Bay.
Simply irrationality combined with a planning lag or unwillingness to develop Haifa and an attempt to block its development for many decades to come because it is clear to everyone that there will be no subsidence and the "temporary" electrification will become a permanent nuisance with 4 tracks
If they end up in Hecht Park, if they end up in Bat Galim, if they end up in the lower city, everything will be locked up in the huge electrification wall. Understand where the mayor marched Haifa with his agreement to an imaginary subsidence, and also what was signed was subsidence only along Hecht Park, which means that all the nuisance from Bat Galim north to Kiryat will remain through Haifa.
It destroyed Haifa for decades to come. It was not for nothing that Huldai demanded that the light rail be built in Tel Aviv, and like this the development along the area that the coastal railways will clear will finance the tunnel through the mountain which will take exactly 4 years to produce just like the Carmel tunnels and it will pay back many times the investment.
It should be absolutely ridiculous not to support the tunnel just to keep the Bat Galim station and the center of the eight that can be served with a suburban train that will connect to the high-speed railways.

Good luck finding the 56 billion NIS to invest... who needs education, health, security, welfare...

Well done Yona Yahav Mayor of Haifa

As a railway man for 27 years, of which as director of the railway planning department and later as a statutory consultant, who also accompanied Tetel/65, I absolutely support the position presented by Dvir Langer.
I will also add a number of facts that are unknown to the Haifa public and the residents of the Kiryat and the north of the country, and perhaps also to some of the members of the Haifa City Council, that perhaps another part of them knows but ignores them:
A. As part of Tel/65/a, it is about the construction of a monstrous concrete station, excavated in the coastal environment and to the west
to the Carmel beach station, and in the water whose dimensions are: about a kilometer long and about 40 meters wide, which is about half the length
station and at a depth of about 22 meters.
This building will include 4 tracks and two island docks, technical systems, and parking for over 1,000 private vehicles.
Also, more parking spaces on the ground and in the coastal area will be prepared for over 4,000 parking spaces.
As a result: the traffic jams at the Matam intersection will be much longer than the current situation, in addition, the passengers in the private vehicles
Those who choose to park underground will be delayed and waste precious time, both due to the security check and due to finding a place
Parking and walking from the parking lot to the platforms. So are the passengers in the private vehicles that will be parked on the ground.
This is negligent conduct, that instead of encouraging the use of public transportation, the use of the car is actually encouraged
the private
Also, the ramps of Highway 4 that connect to and over Highway 2 will be extended by hundreds of meters of concrete bridges at a glance
West towards the sea, and a larger and new station building will be built on the ground.
B. In addition, if there was an understanding that the continuation plan, Tel/65/B would sink the existing tracks that would be used
Further to the suburban trains, it is wrong and even misleading. In fact, Tel/65/B will perpetuate the existing situation of two
Rails on the ground, with the train electrification network, and with acoustic walls, starting from the Carmel Beach hotels and south
From there, in the most sensitive place in Haifa.
third. And if the follow-up plan is also approved, 4 tunnels will be built inside Haifa, with complicated implementation problems under
Urban infrastructures, and pilings of existing buildings, and of execution problems of future buildings above
these tunnels.
d. The follow-up plan produces a station in the Kiryat Hamel area, which is underground at a depth of 50 meters in water
and on two floors, a floor for the high-speed rails, and a floor for the suburban rails, with vertical connections between them.
I don't know of such a station in the world, and I doubt if such a station will be approved, and/or financed.
God. Implementation of Tel/65/A will extend the travel time for northerners and the residents of the Kiryats and the Neve Shanan neighborhood and more, due to the need
that this plan will require changing trains to high-speed trains, instead of significantly shortening the travel time
As stated in the plan according to written instructions of the Prime Minister, Minister of Finance and Minister of the Interior.
And in conclusion - in order to avoid the failures that this alternative creates and that it will be billions of shekels more expensive than an effective alternative
more and cheaper, and that it was not considered, as required in the railway's strategic plan, the obligation to cancel Titel/65/a is required,
and to re-examine in a serious manner the alternatives in Haifa, so that tracks on the ground will not be perpetuated, and that they
will significantly reduce travel time.

Dov Halevi

Well done, finally.
Stop this dream.

Good Morning.
Every time I receive a report from you about the state of railway development in the north, I admire your courage to act for future generations and change the history of our country and its people.
Hopefully more people will be exposed to this information and try to follow this smart and logical path
Only the Shadira tunnel will solve the problems of most of the residents of the north, and not the urban needs of the Haifa municipality will dictate our needs.
Good luck and keep it up. We are all with you

I have been involved in the issue since the late 90s. Preparing an article, will be published soon.

The Sedra Tunnel, the Hemetz to Atlit exchange, will bring the Kiryats, Acre, Nahariya, Nazareth, Karmiel, Ma'alot and the entire Galilee very close to the center of the country.
Precisely now, in the war, and in the catastrophic neglect of Otaf Lebanon -
The boulevard tunnel is essential for the future of the north!
Haifa will also benefit from the reduction in the number of vehicles that pass through the city, on their way to the center, do not buy anything, block roads, and the Carmel tunnels, and pollute the air. Only in this way will we all have a fast and high-quality solution by train!

The boulevard tunnel is so logical and required - therefore its chances are slim. The ongoing cost of the war also consumes infrastructure development. Therefore, the transportation isolation of the North will only increase.

The railway crossing in Haifa should be completely abandoned, this will finally open the sea to the residents and it will also be possible to profit from the land that will be vacated. Alternatively, a new road that will solve the problem of going from Haifa to Kiryat. A resident of Haifa who wants to go to Tel Aviv will arrive either at the heart of the bay, or at a new station near the football stadium. Those who want to get to Haifa will get off at these two stations and travel by metro.

One might think that Haifa is so big that it must have 4 stations, but in fact one station in the center of the Gulf or in Kiryat Shvarer would save everyone travel time and of course would allow the evacuation of at least 10 km of the longest railway barrier in Israel.

The municipality of Haifa is an obstacle to the development and prosperity of the north. The residents of the Western Galilee were taken hostage by Yona Yahav who represents a narrow, non-economic interest that has no grasp of reality.
Only those who do not believe in their city and its ability to attract economic forces force themselves on others!

Why do the residents of the north have to go through all Haifa stations? The new plan should serve us for tens if not a hundred years, there is no reason for us to go through all the stations in Haifa, maybe we will also go through all the coastal stations? (Atlit, Zichron the future, Binyamina, Pardes Hana and many other small ones).
The absolute majority want to continue south and as quickly as possible, the boulevard tunnel guarantees maximum speed and also turns the Bay center into a central station for the Haifa metropolis (the Transport HUB concept is known to be particularly effective).
Another advantage of the plan is that in the event that the suburban train leaves the ground right at the stadium station, the coast line accessible to Haifa will be maximized and will create additional economic opportunities for the city of the north.

We have waited far too long for the Carmel tunnels, which in between have also greatly improved the situation on the axis of independence.
We must not wait so long for the only solution that really makes sense, the boulevard tunnel.
It makes no sense that the residents of Acre, Nahariya, Karmiel, Kiryat Shmona, the Kiryats would make a long and horribly slow detour through Haifa.

Indeed, Haifa needs a completely different solution that will maximize the maximum benefits and eliminate all the terrible defects that the rail electrification project will inflict on Haifa. No Haifai wants to see a forest of unbelievably ugly power poles along the beach. No Haifai wants to perpetuate for another generation the rail buffer that prevents the growth of the city towards the sea. No Haifai, and no traveler from the north of our city, wants to change trains at the Carmel Beach station, on the way to Tel Aviv or to Israel and back... and these are just some of the many flaws and difficulties that the plan will create for our city. This is indeed another cry for generations that Klish supported with inexplicable difficulty!! What the plans of the railway administration and the planning administration impose on us for many years to come is intolerable. Unfortunately, all the appeals we submitted (Avihu Hahn, Moti Blitzblau, Shmuelik Galbhart, Anouchi and also Dvir Langer, heads of authorities outside Haifa and environmental organizations) were not accepted and no one knows if we will ever get rid of this horrible punishment. However, the author of the article is not Haifai and cannot represent the Haifai interest. The solution for us should be unequivocal: to stop the overhead electrification on the one hand and to tunnel the track between South Haifa and Kiryat Shrovetide, without interrupting the track continuity between the city and the center of the country.
We must not give up on the tunnel that we proposed between these two points... and surprisingly, in the end, it turned out to be financially more profitable than the completely unnecessary replica investments planned by reckless planners, when the way was accelerated for the railway management to electrify the track in Haifa and without taking into account the damages they would cause, in terms of - "whatever it costs "…!

I hope that the Ministry of Transportation will not give in to the pressures and take care of the residents of the Galilee!