(haipo) - The residents of the 'Savioni Dania' neighborhood describe a deep sense of frustration from the severe damage to their quality of life, after the main road in the neighborhood, on Oskar Schindler Street, became very busy, noisy and surrounded by the pungent smell of diesel fuel, just as if it were an intercity road.
Residents of the neighborhood describe an incessant noise of trucks, motorcycles, modified vehicles, ATVs and car horns all day and all night. "Our life has become a nightmare."
"Savioni Dania" is one of the more prestigious neighborhoods in Haifa, which is characterized by high-rise, high-rise buildings, and for the most part, the residents who choose to live there will be looking for quality of life, comfort and peace. But the peace that the residents of the neighborhood were looking for was violated, especially those who live on the main street of the neighborhood Oskar Schindler, was violated a long time ago. Life in the "quiet" neighborhood has become a nightmare.
The residents say that Oskar Schindler Street, the main street of the neighborhood, has become an intercity road. A busy, noisy and polluting street. Despite repeated appeals to both the municipality and the police, nothing is addressed and nothing changes.
Yael Shaked, a resident of the neighborhood, says in a conversation with Lahi Pa:
"Oscar Schindler has become an intercity road that connects the Kiryats, Nesher, Yagor and Haifa. Countless vehicles, off-road motorcycles, motorcycles, improved cars, ATVs, diesel trucks drive there every hour of the day and the noise is unbearable, both in the morning and at night. It was a quiet and solid neighborhood and now our life has become a nightmare," she says.
"The main thing is that at the entrance to the neighborhood, which forbids the entry of polluting vehicles, but it turns out that the sign is only for beauty, because there is no enforcement. The trucks honk non-stop, the motorcycles and improved vehicles make noise day and night and a strong smell of diesel fuel surrounds the area. Our life has become a nightmare. The most outrageous and sad thing is that the police And the municipality does not help, despite our countless requests.
Countless inquiries and no response
"It is very easy to take care of the well-being of the residents here, by placing surveillance and enforcement cameras and placing signs that warn that surveillance and enforcement are indeed taking place and at the same time direct the drivers to travel a different way. The noises also reach the inner roads in the neighborhood, like Mendel Singer. This is a neighborhood where property taxes are very high, without any compensation. Because most of the people here are adults, there has been no outcry so far, even though the police hotline is full of calls for help. We turn to the municipality and they turn to the police, we turn to the police, we don't get help there either, in the end we don't get an answer from either of them."
The police gave Lai Pa in response:
A. Regarding polluting vehicles - a combination of the Ministry of Transport will be urgently examined.
B. On Moshe Road, speed enforcement is carried out with high frequency by operating a laser speedometer, exactly the axis that descends from Oskar Schindler towards Nesher. Reports have been recorded and enforcement is carried out regularly. At the same time, in light of the complaints that this is emerging as a phenomenon, we will immediately increase enforcement and integrate additional forces".
No response was given from the Haifa municipality.
When the mayors in the Haifa metropolis refuse to promote public transportation, do not encourage traveling by public transportation, and do not act in planning to give it priority, then why are you surprised that there is traffic noise all day?!
You have two cars in the parking lot, right?! Your kids don't get bused to school, do they? So why don't others do as you do. You created and chose this environment near a main road - what are you complaining about?!
Stamp like that
So what??? Cars are life. As for the noise of motorcycles and horns, this is indeed insolence and boldness on the part of the riders and requires serious enforcement!
If we catch the scoundrel who drives his motorcycle at three in the morning and makes shelling noises, he will be in trouble
If you speak Arabic then you might be able to communicate with him
Haifa's real problem is that pigs are being murdered here. A dark and dangerous municipality. The day people realize that abuse is out of the question, we will be in a different place. May we have more problems like Dania has...
Really dumb. sorry Humans predate pigs. The pigs are a serious problem and it's time to get rid of them. People like you are delusional and disrupt public order!
The resident is right and because of people like Miriam everything looks the way it does, everyone thinks he and his group are ahead of everyone else and put a cut above others (at best, and at worst cause killing, murder and destruction).
In the end, prioritizing oneself at the expense of others and the attitude of "after the flood" leads to the drowning of everyone.
And also, if you want to judge how a society will treat all of its members, it is appropriate to check how it treats the weak and the defenseless (in the Haifa case - the pigs and other animals), because the wheel turns and sooner or later it will treat everyone the same way.
With all due respect... Oskar Schindler is one of 3 roads that go down to the Nesher and Tsek Post area. There is also the Pika Road in Horev and the Serpentina of Nesher near the antenna after the University of Haifa... beyond that there are no roads that go down... only from the Ziv center or Yad Labanim in Neve Shanan.
So with all due respect to the rich there who want a quality of life. You live 2 meters from a 4 lane main road (2 in each direction) when Haifa and the area has over half a million inhabitants... so I promise everyone... that the quality of life will only decrease over time.
It is always possible to live in the Golan Heights in some settlement/movement, where there is zero traffic. And complete silence except for the occasional katyusha.
They're making noise with their motorcycles, we think it's shelling, really
The whiners in action. This route was before the towers, desolate and dangerous. They made a bypass route, modern and invested, and in the natural way they began to build next to it and it became an internal road. The traffic jams were the whiners bitterly bitter about the traffic jams. Live in Mebara and enjoy peace and quiet.
The vast majority of whiners probably own at least two heavy, wasteful, noisy and polluting vehicles. These weigh a ton and a half to carry a hundred kilos of sadness, self-righteousness and constant guilt. Transportation is the essence of a vibrant city where you can easily and comfortably get from point to point. If you want bread, vegetables and fresh fruit every day, get used to the trucks. There are no free meals. There is something to be done about noise, or young rattlers, but from my experience I know that the whiners never replace the crying with a smile and understanding. They did to me, they drank to me, they took from me. Travel abroad more and relax there. Come on, cry a little loudly, why is everything about us?
By the way, did you hear that there is a war?
One of the readers wondered if Savioni Dania (official name: Savioni HaCarmel) is in Nasher. So here are the facts: Savioni HaCarmel is within the jurisdiction of Haifa, and it is a kind of "Eagle's wrap", when the street that goes up from Nesher is called Rehov HaTana, and this street has nothing to do with "Savioni HaCarmel", unless a resident of HaTana wants to show off the "luxury" in the name Dania.' Two readers rightly suggested that bumps be installed across Oskar Schindler in both directions, thereby slowing down the ride. Very reasonable and not expensive!
Uri, where do you get these inventions from?
Starting from about 200 meters from the axis to the university, the entire rest of the road route in Vacha Nesher belongs to Nesher and not to Haifa. The Fig Street is a small alley to the right of the road, in the upper part, for those coming up from Nesher, and the Fig Street belongs to Nesher.
The whole nightmare described also applies to the Figana street which already belongs to Nesher. A continuous nightmare of noise and in addition there is no normal transportation. In order to enter the Haifa area you need 2 buses even though it was said that they would take care of the issue.
There was a bus to the Carmel beach that was canceled for some reason
Too bad !!!!
There's nothing to do. You bought near a road and that's the price
Surely there is something to do, and this is exactly what the residents are asking for. The municipality and/or the police can place speed cameras, add deceleration lanes, set traps to catch the illegal "enhanced" cars and the motorcycles and ATVs that compete there and endanger human life... but if you can disregard it then why not, right?
This sounds like another gratuitous hate speech.
Welcome to reality.
There are many tenants who would be happy to rent the apartments at a fair price, as in the other entrances to Haifa.
This is what the quality of local media looks like.
Self-interested and interesting articles.
Go through the comments and see the level of journalism in Israel.
That's not how changes are made
Take the comments here and just start making articles that really touch on the problems of the Haifaites, really overwhelm them
It is the only road in the area and it is a mountainous area
And this road existed many years before this Schindler neighborhood, come with claims to construction companies and the state for sticking a neighborhood on a very old main road in the area
Just let them understand that everything comes in the trucks, the fuel, the food, the computer table where they sit to write nonsense without trucks they will have no bread
And in motorcycles and ATVs and the "improved" cars, do you think the people's bread comes from them as well?
Sell and buy instead tomorrow
No police, no enforcement, no deterrence, wild west. The motorcycles and ATVs go all the way from the university up to Bar Yehuda in Nesher and deliberately make as much noise as possible, especially at night, it's already becoming a nightmare, the funniest thing is that they pass ten meters from the police station in Nesher, which they were so proud of because it would reduce crime.
Where is the city that took care of this building?
The cries of the spoiled....Indeed during the day there is a lively traffic of vehicles because it is like a road that connects cities....in the evening hours it is quite quiet there except for the problem of the improved vehicles and motorcycles of the problematic sector, but there is no police and preventive actions of this hazard is really a hazard and a nightmare.
Many of the houses in the neighborhood were built on a main road. It is not new and has not changed. Those who do not like it should not have purchased an apartment there.
really? And what about those who just don't like the noise of "improved" cars whose exhausts make noises of gunshots and explosions? And what about those who don't like the noise of late night motorcycle races? Shouldn't all of them have bought an apartment there? And what about those who bought an apartment before this psychosis started? Do you think they should move, instead of the hazards being taken care of? Totally makes sense...
With all due respect to the residents of the Dania neighborhood and empathy for the noise suffering they experience, the residents of Sderot Hanasi, Tschernihovski and Yafa Nof have been experiencing the suffering of improved cars and motorcycles from Torpipe on a daily basis for several years now, when the police know the epicenter of the problem which is on Lui Promenade, where all the noise makers and traffic violations meet at all hours of the day. Now it's the season of weddings in the sector and the end of schools in the sector, and they descend from the boardwalk in caravans honking and making noise without interruption. Maybe it will be taken care of? We are also fed up.
disconnected. The whole country became one big ghetto. LOL
The residents of Dania are complaining, so what will the evacuees say?
In my opinion - this is a sponsored article by some realtor who wants to show the seller an apartment so that he understands that the price needs to be lowered.
An annoying article and does not move my right finger.
"Troubles of the rich" (no evil eye)
Place a no entry sign after 11 at night and between two and four. It is a road that connects Haifa and the Druze villages with the valley and the Gulf, so obviously heavy vehicles travel there.
The property tax in most of the Carmel range is the same and expensive. The same rate is also paid by sea, so don't say that you are paying more for special treatment from the municipality.
You have a lot of money, build a tunnel from Dania to Ligor and you won't have pollution and noise arrogant Yashkenazim. P.S. You deserve it!
Hahahahaha, champion.
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The cemetery is quiet.
Savioni Dania receive an article? This has been happening all over Haifa for too long.
How many times will we remind you that Haifa is full of potential and zero realizations ……
All of Haifa has a serious problem of criminal driving, especially of two-wheelers, and when those scoundrels feel the weakness of the enforcement system, the results speak for themselves👹
"Especially two-wheeled"? you laughed
Even if there are some idiots who give everyone a bad name, there are still many two-wheelers (you didn't bother to indicate whether motorized or not, but let's assume you meant motorized unless your disconnection from reality is complete) still statistically two-wheelers are thousands of meters better than 4+ vehicles that drive like Their grandfather bought them the road, they put a line on everyone, they make noise, they are dangerous and most of all they pollute.
If what bothers you are Volt and Tenbis drivers, either stop ordering food or start recording their transfers and send them to the traffic police
extremely accurate. In addition, the neighborhood does not even have a community center or a central square. The parking is really not suitable for the amount of apartments that have been built in the area.
There is no enforcement at all, they come from the villages with motorcycles and cars making noise and making a mess on the roads. It's only getting worse there are no police!!!
The main thing is to give a report to poor grandfather
If an old man has a car - he is not poor.
If grandfather committed a crime he will receive a report like everyone else
If the phenomenon is so common, why not get out of the car and take straight pictures and not half curved like this?
It's true, I've been a resident of the neighborhood for about 30 years, and for the last two years there is a member of the Lifshitz family, David Michal and their adult children, Ziv Itai and Hantzuk, a nuisance of following me non-stop. They even sit in the neighborhood ice cream parlor, follow me, want to take pictures
This is a slum neighborhood. Only an insane person would choose to live in this disgusting place.
Just putting vibration strips is cheap, effective and safe
I proposed a simple, effective, cheap and safe solution to put vibration strips about 400 meters before the traffic light of Dania from Oskar to the traffic light. Once this is done, it will simply storm more slowly, the noise will disappear. Unfortunately, my proposal was made in the Trio group and I did not find a listening ear. I hope that a person will be found who can forward the proposal to the appropriate office and come to Zion Goel
There is also no obstruction in the reports for vehicles that park in blue and white without activating Pango parking, so the residents of the street have nowhere to park, residents with a parking ticket from the municipality.
There are no police anywhere..not on the beach..not on the road. Ben Gvir sends everyone to fight the protesters in Tel Aviv because it's easier
But Yona took a picture with the Haifa police chief didn't he?
With all understanding - for decades, - even before it was called Oskar Schindler Street - this road was (even before it was widened) a single and inter-city traffic route between Haifa and Nesher and the valleys. The apartment buyers by his side had to be aware of this "role".
And yet, on such a road that crosses a residential neighborhood, the municipality is expected to install noise shields like any other interurban road and is expected to be inspected regarding upgraded cars and motorcycles, which are against the law!
The police will continue to give nonsense but there really is no government. Problems with improved vehicles, motorcycles and ATVs is a problem that has no end and is found in all parts of the city. Ben Gvir's phalanxes fought against the protestors.
May it continue like this, and maybe even the noises will increase...
You can finally move to development towns...
and enjoy life with your people
The road was there before Oskar Schindler's towers. Did any of the buyers not know that such a road would be busy? Let thousands of cars pass there a day between the Carmel Ridge and Haifa Bay, Nesher, Kiryat and more...
David is inclined to work in an apartment soon and Ramat Hanasi will be a main road and everyone will flee
Why will Ramat Hanasi be a main road?
What about the municipality's response regarding the installation of cameras?
Savioni Banya is an eagle, isn't it?
No
Driving problems of improved vehicles exist all over the city, but "police operations". Almost every night you can hear the speeding of such vehicles on Yaffe Nof and Hanasi Boulevards. To remind you, in terms of property tax payment, Yaffe Nof St. is the most expensive street in Haifa.
And on this occasion, what about the cleanliness that was promised in the city in light of the results of the last elections. We were promised a clean city, like Haifa was in the past. In the meantime, Haifa remains a filthy city, as it has been for the past five years.
Just crying, the road is alive and well in front of the neighborhood. They decided to buy cheap houses near the road. have fun Why should 500000 residents who use this road suffer?
Here you see who is making the noise.
All vehicles from these towers are a large part of those 500
If it can "comfort", the use of electric vehicles should be encouraged. These do not make any noise at all and do not smell. But unfortunately, instead of lowering them, taxes are added to them that make them more expensive. It is urgent to write to all concerned, that they lower their cost for the sake of the children's health above all.
Not just there. in the whole city.
Haifa is promiscuous.
Does anyone see a police car in the evening and at night?
Inspection mobility of the municipality?
There is no enforcement and no deterrence!
The problem of motorcycles on Dori road, and road 22 does anyone even care?
Right. The residents of Neve Shaanan and the neighborhoods in the Dori road area are no different or less valuable than Dania Sabioni. They also don't take care of the problems in the area here, car and motorcycle races especially on weekends, noise, mess. This is the case here as well