(haipo) - The Ministry of Health is continuing the moves to remove the Carmel Hospital from Haifa and move it to a new complex in the Kiryat Ata area. The Director General of the Ministry of Health sent a letter to the general management, in which he demands to prepare an operative plan for the transfer of the hospital and to present the plan no later than 1/5/24. Many people write about this letter. A cliché is not written.
Moshe Bar is a good sign
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In response to the letter of the Director General of the Ministry of Health, the general management and the management of Carmel Hospital stated:
"We are happy and welcome the announcement by the Ministry of Health that it has chosen the Carmel Medical Center, from the Klalit Group, to build a new hospital in the Gilam complex in Kiryat Ata.
These days, when we are in the midst of a war, the entire public is aware of the strength of Klalit and its ability to lead the health care system in Israel.
Klalit's hospitals, which received a large number of casualties from the first day of fighting, are engaged in saving lives. In community clinics, we continue to provide medical services as usual alongside opening clinics in hotels and community centers for the many residents who were evacuated from their homes.
It is our commitment to promoting quality medical services and promoting the health of the residents of Haifa and the north that will lead the Carmel and General Medical Center to establish an advanced and innovative medical center that will advance medical services into a new era."
Haifa 300 thousand people will remain with 2 large hospitals Rambam and Bnei Zion and a large clinic in Lynn. In addition, several small hospitals and one cliche...
The Kiryats are 300 people without a hospital at all.
It is clear therefore why should we build?
A decision that is a problem for generations,
Do not move Carmel, the hospital must be expanded and upgraded and a hospital built in addition to Carmel.
There is a lack of hospitals and the existing hospital should not be given up.
Stupid government, build a new hospital in Kiryat, under no circumstances agree to move from Haifa to Kiryat.
A dream government!!!
How does an imaginary country work?
Creates plans in Tirat Carmel, Atlit, in the west and south of Haifa for an additional 100 residents in the next decade - and then takes away from them the hospital that can serve them. And she doesn't invest in expanding the medical schools, so she says that there aren't enough people to fill another hospital.
A completely delusional country sends thousands of students to study abroad because of the medical school cartel.
The Kiryat area and the surrounding area = 300 residents without a hospital because of 50 years of empty promises by 10 health ministers and the worst current one is dismantling a hospital in Haifa and trying to plant in Kiryat.
As there is no second international airport, the planning in the country is screwed up.
Real estate Real estate Real estate at the expense of the public and public health
Future hospital but far from home!
Is it worth it?????
We need another hospital in the wrong place!
All these years the residents of the Kiryat have been told that the Ministry of Health will *add* another hospital in the area for the benefit of the residents.
At once, the need for the residents of Haifa to go to Carmel Hospital was canceled in favor of the residents of the Kiryats.
And the Haifa people?
what about us ?
As the saying goes: stupidity incarnate ♀️ 🤦🏻
We prefer that they make the same round canning cube as always. And return Vita to the label - a response to Moshe.
and stop the
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which prevents the reaction..
I'm not an idiot, I am
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Apparently it is better to build another hospital in Kiryat Ata, but you have to take into account that there is a shortage of doctors and nurses
Why not open a new hospital in Hazor HaGalilit, it will provide employment to all residents of the area.
The residents there do not have to work only in the "fruit of the Galilee" in jobs that do not make a good living.
Instead of adding a hospital in Haifa, what is already there is moved to a distant place.
Build another hospital in the Glaam complex - this is the step that will help the population of Haifa and the Kiryat
Huge stupidity! Instead of building another new hospital for the people of the Kiryats, Kfar Hassidim, Raveim and Tivon (which they deserve) - they want to eliminate the hospital that serves half of Haifa, Dalit al Carmel, Usafia, Yakneam, the settlements of the Carmel coast including Atlit, Tirat Carmel and more, and leave them without A hospital is available except for Rambam, which is also blown up.
Why are all the decision makers in our country so crooked???!!!
Establish a new hospital and operate it gradually, use it with the help of teams that will pay off in the hospitals in Haifa, little by little, floor by floor, because a hospital in Kiryat will need skilled teams of medical personnel instead of traveling on the road with patients with strokes or heart attacks or childbirth and accidents to far away hospitals in Haifa for too long that endangers the lives of the evacuees in the ambulances in the meantime we wish good health to all citizens of Israel until the hospital is implemented and the building in Kiryat is built as soon as possible.
stop being naive
What interests them is the value of the land.
They want the land to leverage their profits.
Public welfare is pushed aside when money of this magnitude is involved.
Terrible!. Deducting a hospital from the city of Haifa (when the hospitals are also collapsing from overload) instead of building another hospital that will serve the Kiryat and the Gulf - a dream.
The person who posted the arrogant and mocking response on behalf of Koffah is generally disconnected and delusional
How does it make sense to leave Haifa without a Klalit hospital and in addition how will 2 hospitals be able to handle a load that 3 hospitals cannot. Bad and ridiculous idea.
Area of the Carmel Hospital, very expensive and very prestigious. You can build a neighborhood for the rich in its place. Who thinks about people?.. Money and only money
No need to whine. Anyone who needs hospital services in Haifa will be able to hold back, block the blood flow, delay the heart attack, not take the brain event too seriously, be patient until they arrive in Mizrach Kiryat Ata and receive, very late, the life-saving treatment (or God forbid the death arrangements ). Friends, just keep the smile and let the financial interest realize its part.
Klalit Hospital Fund agrees to undertake the construction of a new hospital - for this purpose it is expected to receive billions of NIS from the state budget. It is good that they agree to accept the money. If they want to close Carmel Hospital, they must be paid for the huge investments that will go down the drain. This is a very large amount Of money.
The IBA for the establishment of the hospital in Kiryat Ata - Tamal 1025 - was recently canceled in a final judgment of the Supreme Court. If you want to approve a new EIA for the hospital in Kiryat Ata, you need to prepare, submit and approve such an EIA and it will take a long time, as I remember the planning authorities here are working to prevent construction (freeze residential construction for decades by creating a shortage of apartments and spiraling housing prices - that's what that know how to do here - on September 30.9.2023, 50, we noted the XNUMX-year moratorium on residential construction in the plot purchased by my late father.) So no one is going to close Carmel Hospital tomorrow.
Letters don't move hospitals. Plans, talks and dreams.
To all responders,
It's too bad for you to spend energy right now. As you and I know the bureaucratic systems in Israel (not to mention the ego), all this will come to fruition (if at all) for many years to come. Some of us will no longer be here and until then we will have to make do with what we have with all the advantages and disadvantages.
Only Health !
Dream sages‼️‼️‼️
The reason for moving Carmel Hospital to Kiryat Ata is not understood. A crowded place, surrounded by dangerous factories, impractical and involves duplicate and unnecessary expenses.
The right step is to establish a new hospital in the Kiryat area, canceling Carmel for the residents of Haifa is a blow to the residents of the city.
Carmel's closeness and need until now has been proven for decades, his transfer is a huge and infuriating mistake‼️‼️
General Health Insurance Fund is doing an injustice to the residents of the city and if this happens, we will switch to other insurance funds and your loss will be ‼️
We need to build another hospital and not move one to another place
The problem was that in Israel a 720 psychometric and a 107 average in matriculation was not enough to be admitted to study medicine. Then those who can go abroad and study and return to become a doctor and those who have much higher abilities learn something else and it's a shame and stupid.
Bad idea if the land is publicly owned, they probably sold the land to a developer to build towers or a luxury neighborhood. And bought in Kiryat Ata for a penny and a half. Build another hospital for the residents in the north who also deserve service. Doctors? Bring back all those who left…..
How do you neglect the health of all the residents of Ahuza and the Carmel and many other neighborhoods?? Instead of building another hospital?? The hospitals in Haifa are collapsing from congestion... where will the congestion go.... More citizens who need emergency care will simply die. A criminal plan!!!!!!
There is no need to talk about moving Carmel Hospital to Kiryat Ata. Carmel Hospital must remain in the city of Carmel Haifa. This is a necessary and important thing for the general public that every patient needs especially these days. Shalom and blessed Shabbat.
A bad idea needs to be fired in Kiryat and not canceled Carmel. There is a workforce if standards are developed. It costs money and it saves money
Bad idea why generally insured people have to drive all the way to Kiryat. And if, God forbid, a stroke or childbirth, why unnecessary time? We need another car in Kiryat. Teams have standards for doctors and nurses. Just saving on public health.
All respondents agree that a new hospital should be established in Kiryat.
The state also agrees and ordered this.
The new hospital will be operated on the basis of Carmel Hospital.
Currently, there are no duplicate medical teams in the area. If, by the time it opens, another medical school will be established in the north and enough doctors and nurses will be trained, then it is clear that Carmel in Haifa will not close either. It is also possible to continue to use it as a large clinic with a lower medical level staff.
We see a great success of the municipality of Haifa, and of its leader, in solving the difficult transportation problems on Mapo Street. Ambulances may no longer go there.
And worse than that - the hospital will belong to the general government and this means that the funds will be blocked in the patient's medical file, for the emergency room they will receive and when they need to see Maccabi's medical material for example - then it is blocked - this is what is happening today - they are accepted for the emergency room and maybe for hospitalization, but all the personal medical material Both Carmel and Maccabi are blocked, so what did you do? You completely screwed us and left us only on Rambam where it is a catastrophe, and Bnei Zion is not accessible, there is no parking, all we spent ups and downs, what did you do?
I think whoever prepared this letter is suffering from intoxication, first of all we need and must have another hospital regardless of Carmel or others, secondly if and to the extent you really want to copy then at least have a normal place in a strategic and orderly and new place
The residents of Haifa are no longer interested in their health. The main thing is to remove Carmel Hospital from Haifa. First of all, the city fell asleep standing up. God forbid, a person having a heart attack or stroke will have to travel by ambulance to Ata from Haifa. It does not make sense. The health system in Haifa should be strengthened and not dismantled. Sad
Even so, the situation is difficult in hospitals, this is a very bad idea, whoever thought of it has no sense, it is forbidden to agree to it
And what will happen to Rothschild?
Such stupidity. We simply need a hospital in Kiryat in addition to the ones that already exist out of place
It is indeed ludicrous to move a Kofah Klalit hospital to Kiryat Ata.
The right to build a new hospital in the Kiryat area.
We need welfare, the hospitals are busy and all Haifa residents who are generally insured will be forced to come to Kiryat.
It's that the system is low and not an improvement
How stupid.
Just build a new one, don't copy
Instead of the Carmel, there will be an extension of the Rothschild Hospital
There is no problem to build another hospital
However, there are no medical teams to house him.
Therefore, there is no choice but to move an existing hospital.
Capish?
Another bad idea, a bad government and its decisions
Poor planning and a screwed up idea like whoever planned it
Why not build another new hospital
Why transfer?
There is no limit to stupidity