Another blow to the Haifaites
(Live here at the Gulf Conference) - Dr. Avi Goldberg, director of the Carmel Medical Center, said today (Tuesday, 21/3/23) at the Gulf Regional Conference 2023, that plans have already been approved for the establishment of a new hospital in Kiryat Ata, which will replace the Carmel Hospital in Haifa.
"Establishing the Menachem Begin Hospital in Kiryat Ata is an essential national mission and will bring good news to all residents of the Gulf region. The General and Carmel Hospital are ready for the challenge and want to promote it as quickly as possible. I believe that the Carmel Hospital with its centers of excellence and the strong connection to the community and the General as the leading health organization in Israel will be able to establish the highest quality hospital in the fastest time period," said the director of the center today Carmel Medical Dr. Avi Goldberg at the panel that took place today in Haifa at the International Gulf Regional Conference.
Yaakov Borovsky, the candidate for mayor of Haifa, responds:
Dozens of chiefs, CEOs and executives from all branches of the economy, including members of the Knesset and ministers from the ministries of economy and transportation, arrived this morning for the annual Eshkol Hamafaretz conference, which was held for the second time.
In the panel that opened the conference, the director of the Carmel Medical Center, Dr. Avi Goldberg, was invited to present the future and the vision in the field of healthcare in the Gulf cluster.
"The Bay Area has unique health characteristics that include an elderly population, health disparities that characterize the periphery and a great diversity of the population. All of these require the preparation of long-term health plans," said Dr. Goldberg.
"We must address the gaps in health and recruit health workers to the region - doctors, nurses and many other professions. The new hospital is the highlight of the program. The establishment of the new hospital in Kiryat Ata as a super center is first of all important for the health of the residents, but in addition, it will contribute in a very significant way to the development the regional Such a hospital will promote quality employment, research, academic studies and collaborations with the high-tech industry and other industries. This will provide a tremendous opportunity for inclusive regional growth for all residents of the region. A hospital of this size cannot be built from scratch." Dr. Goldberg explained, "Therefore it was decided that it would be based on an existing hospital, mainly due to the inability to recruit the personnel for the new hospital without seriously harming the existing hospitals. The General wants to establish the new hospital and as the largest and leading health organization in the country and with many years of experience in the establishment and operation of 14 hospitals and an outstanding connection to the medical needs of the community it is also the most suitable for this. Carmel Hospital with its centers of excellence are also the right choice to form the basis for the new hospital."
Dr. Goldberg also stated that "Carmel Hospital is currently completely blocked in terms of its ability to develop and it suffers severely from severe overcrowding, accessibility difficulties and parking problems. We want to develop more advanced medical services for the residents of the area but cannot do so. Only the transfer of the hospital will allow for him to express his full abilities and increase the health of all the residents of the area. The decision to establish the hospital has already been made and is also reflected in the basic guidelines of the current government. What is required now is to take the first step in implementing the plan, so that in 7 years the hospital can be opened." .
Also the mayor of K. Bialik Mr. Eli Dukorski who was a guest on the panel with Dr. Goldberg stated that the rapid establishment of a hospital in the areas of Kiryat Ata is a very important generator of growth and that he personally very much supports the establishment of a hospital for the benefit of all the residents of Kiryat and the Gulf cluster.
As mentioned, the panel dealt with the question of the future of the Haifa Bay, vision versus reality and how they estimate the Bay Area will look in the coming years and was also participated by Yoav Zuckerman Director of the Gulf Port, Oz Katz Director of Industry Administration at the Ministry of Economy, Mrs. Salima Mustafa Suleiman Deputy Director of Economic Development Administration at the Arab Society and Mayor of the Municipality K. Bialik Mr. Eli Dukorski.
According to Dr. Goldberg, these plans have been on the table since 1995. The new hospital will provide another 2500 jobs, and there will also be additional hospital beds, something that currently cannot be added to the Carmel Hospital as it is. The project's completion will take between 7 for 10 years. Despite the inconvenience to the residents of Haifa, there is still another hospital (Rambam) that provides them with service, adding that the northern and bay areas need a hospital.
► Head of the Al Carmel Dalit Council, Rafik Halavi, after the announcement of the transfer of the Carmel Hospital to Kiryat Ata • Watch
At the time of the announcement, there was an uproar in the hall, as many of the Haifa residents expressed their anger that Carmel Hospital is an accessible hospital and close to so many neighborhoods where elderly people live who need medical assistance close to them. But my father is convinced that this is the right decision to make for all the citizens of the entire north. In the hall, the heads of the authorities of the Druze cities Dalia and Asafia issued a statement that they do not intend to support the decision.
The wild construction around the Carmel hospital meant that it had to move to a new location. It doesn't make sense for ambulances to get stuck in traffic jams at different times of the day, it's a matter of mental control.
His nose is empty
A crooked decision, a wrong thought, a really wise dreamer! The residents of Haifa are really helped by Carmel Hospital, especially in its emergency department which is close, accessible and provides a therapeutic response compared to Rambam Hospital where it is a catastrophe and should not be approached! Bnei Zion also suffers from a lack of parking spaces in the vicinity, so take away one hospital from us and leave the Haifaites with such a limitation that is really difficult from the bottom to the bottom, so what sense is there here? really make life difficult for us.
A new manager was also appointed for the new hospital in Kiryat Ata.
Strange because Dr. Goldberg was told about the transfer
And they didn't tell him that a manager had already been appointed.
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Absolutely crazy decision!
Another straw on the camel's back.
It's a shame that you are doing this, you will destroy Haifa and cause great burdens in the hospitals, shame on you
Do not swim from the madness of systems. Carmel Hospital serves a population of 200 residents around it and is already full to capacity today.
If that's not enough, then 6 huge neighborhoods are planned and built around it, including Gali Carmel and the Hatorim, Neot Peres on the 40,000rd, Morot Harofeh, Ramat Shamir, Binui Binui, the beach neighborhoods Neve David and Shaar Alia. All of these will add 30 residents in the next decade who will have to travel XNUMX minutes to the crowded Rambam or to Bnei Zion, which has worse accessibility than the Carmel Hospital in a much more crowded neighborhood. Imagine thousands more vehicles arriving in Bnei Zion without the Carmel Hospital - this will be a complete medical and transportation collapse in Haifa . Carmel Hospital is excellently located in the center of the ridge, serving huge neighborhoods around it, including Nesher Dalia Asafia, Carmel Beach, Carmel Castle.. It is an illusion to think that it can be moved to Kiryat Ata.
Just complete madness and the destruction of Haifa by completely disconnected officials from Jerusalem.
It is blessed to have a hospital in Kiryat Ata, but why at the expense of the residents of Haifa?? How can you leave such a big city with two hospitals?? Why can't we just build another hospital???
Agree with you
Because it is not possible to establish a hospital from scratch without relying to a considerable extent on an existing personnel infrastructure.
It is impossible to produce thousands of new standards and medical personnel in an instant.
Unfortunately, the only option for Carmel Hospital to develop is to move to another location, in its current location it has reached the limit of its ability to expand.
The time has come for this hospital to be built in the Kiryat region and the north since they have been waiting for 28 years since the plans were contradicted, so Mr. Afik Halavi you can be angry and oppose in the Kiryat region and the Haifa Bay there are many more residents than you in the council and you have Rambam and Bnei Zion near you and even Kiryat Ata will be closer to you Than the traffic jams and the lack of parking at Carmel Hospital, so for you too it is excellent and convenient in all respects, so don't say Kalam Padi. Much health and that you will not need hospitals for all the residents in Kiryat and the Gulf.
Geography is probably not your forte. From Mount Carmel to Kiryat Ata 40 minutes drive. Livni Zion 40 minutes drive. XNUMX minutes to Carmel Hospital.
How exactly will it be convenient to get to Bnei Zion, which is elevated in the center of the Hadar Carmel and as Hatzbar the brown suffers from enormous obscurity and an accessibility problem from the ridge?
Do you think they just established the Carmel Hospital to serve the ridge neighborhoods? After all, Bnei Zion was decades before him and was horribly crowded.
I don't understand what the problem is, why move Carmel Hospital. In addition to it, another hospital should be built in Kiryat Ata. In any case, there is a lack of beds and medical services, so it is clear that a shack should not be moved, but added.
The treasure boys are a collection of ignorant and delusional people.
In the past, they opposed the Ayalon routes, the railway to Karmiel, the Mizrahi railway, and the expansion of the National Highway - as long as we understand which "geniuses" made the decisions here.
A 25-year-old health services representative who graduated in economics decides to eliminate medical services accessible to the 200 residents of Carmel and the southern entrances in order not to finance a new hospital in Kiryat and do something like that, by moving the Carmel hospital.
Agree with you
What impudence! Not long ago, they renovated the Carmel hospital with aviation capital and made a new Katyusha-protected emergency room and more... a terrible waste of money
The protected sorting room was actually built in Bnei Zion, not in Carmel.
With Bnei Zion so important, why did the Haifa municipality sell it?
As long as you don't build, it's all lies and just bullshit.
It's a shame that Dr. Avi Goldberg looks at the matter of the location of the hospital only from logistical aspects. This is definitely an important issue. But the desire to move the hospital corresponds with everything that is currently being done for the elderly population. Post offices, bank branches, public transportation are closed. It's not enough that Haifa is considered peripheral from a medical point of view, so now the situation is even worse.
I didn't understand, and the residents of Carmel Castle will have to travel all the way to Kiryat if necessary?
They will go to Bnei Zion, Rambam or Hadera.
There is a hospital in the Carmel Castle, on the southern outskirts of the city.
recommended.
There is no hospital in Carmel Castle - it is for the mentally ill.
Bnei Zion in Haifa when the Carmel Hospital exists - it is already full to capacity today and the difficulty of accessibility is more problematic than any other hospital.
It is correct to build another hospital for the approval of the Gulf communities and surrounding communities, but why destroy the Carmel hospital? It is, in my opinion, nonsense to cancel an existing hospital.
The Honorable D. Goldberg,
Don't put the cart before the horse!
It is true that it was decided to build a hospital in the Gulf, but a final decision has not yet been made as to who will move there: you or "Bnei Zion".
Everything you wrote "... Carmel Hospital is currently completely blocked in terms of its ability to develop and it suffers severely from overcrowding, accessibility difficulties and parking problems." The same is true for "Bnei Zion". Another quote from your words: "Despite the inconvenience to the residents of Haifa, there is still another hospital (Rambam) that provides them with service..." is an insult and a spit in the face of "Bnei Zion" when you don't even mention it as another hospital in Haifa. By the way, was the CEO of "Bnei Zion" also invited to the conference? If so, and to the extent that he also addressed the issue, was there no place to include his words in the article?
Well done for the requested response.
Carmel Hospital are arrogant as the Histadrut and as it has been for many years.
If there really is a choice to move, I wonder what combination they will make on the structure and grounds of Carmel Hospital.
Common sense says that they should give it to the Zionists, to operate another branch due to their difficulty.
Bnei Zion is full to the brim and serves huge neighborhoods such as Hadar, Hadar Aliyon, Neve Shaanan with 100 thousand residents around it.
The Ministry of Health is sick in the head.
Carmel Hospital is essential like no other. It can be neither an extension of Bnei Zion nor an emergency room and a geriatric hospital as I heard they are planning.
What will happen is a medical disaster that will affect 200 existing and future residents in Naot Peres, Morot Harofeh, Gali Carmel, Givat Zemar, Ramat Shamir - neighborhoods that will add 40 residents around Carmel Hospital in the next decade.
Shame on the mayor. Haifa continues to behave like a failed city
So because of its proximity to the community, the hospital tears itself away from the community, puts a band on it, and moves to its new location? Well done Klalit and well done Carmel Hospital.
that we won't need him. But if necessary, we will never go to this repulsive place called Kiryat……. cover There are Bnei Zion, there is Rambam.
The time has finally come
We will go to Bnei Zion or Rambam. It's a shame that the city of Haifa doesn't have a hospital anymore.
In Kiryat Ata or Shafaram? Because he was also promised to Shafaram. Like Saleh Shabti, selling the same promise several times, counting the same money twice and three times and basically nothing happens.
Both are full to capacity. And they will be even more full with urban renewal in Haifa neighborhoods.
What is happening is a disaster at a time when it is forbidden to move 3 hospitals from Haifa that serve half a million residents in Haifa and its surroundings. What is needed is a fourth hospital in Kiryat for a quarter of a million residents in Kiryat and the surrounding area.
BSD
First congratulations. about the idea. I would like to mention that already about 45 years ago the issue came up for discussion in the sub-committee of the Interior Committee with the permission of the late MK Per Michael Nodelman. There were positive reactions from those present, but since then the voice has been silent on the matter.