"Suddenly, in the calm of a Friday afternoon, Shabbat songs with crazy intensities"
(live here in the neighborhoods) - Residents of the Neve Shanan neighborhood in Haifa, especially in the Ziv center area, report that recently they were forced to accept Shabbat in a way that for some of them is less pleasant, when the Shabbat entrance is accompanied by loud sounds of Shabbat songs emanating from a public address system that was unexpectedly placed on the roof of one of the buildings on Shalom Aleichem Street, literally In the heart of the Ziv center.
A resident of the neighborhood tells Lahi Pa that on recent Fridays, while she was preparing as usual with her family for Shabbat evening, suddenly, without any preparation, she and her family members found themselves hearing Shabbat hymns coming from outside with tremendous intensity: "Peace be upon you angels of peace..." It was so strong, we didn't understand where it suddenly came from," she says.
Another resident of the neighborhood says that he was sitting with friends in a cafe, which in retrospect turned out to be near the building from whose roof the songs were emanating: "Suddenly, loudspeakers were turned on with loud voices, at first we thought it was Nachman's car... but it was so loud from the direction of the roofs, so within a second we recognized where it was coming from The song, until it stopped. It was like that last Friday as well, but this time we realized that it was something permanent."
Another resident of the area (at his wife's request, his name is withheld in the system) said to Lahi Fe: "Beyond the fact that this is a violation of the law as far as I know, it is simply disturbing and unreasonable. This is how to play chants, or anything else, at such a loud volume, in the public space, in the middle of the Ziv Center ... Besides the fact that in Haifa and especially here in the neighborhood, the status quo has been maintained between the religious and secular residents for years, it is absolutely unacceptable that in such a unilateral and blatant way, someone decides on his own accord to do whatever he wants and break what has been preserved here for the benefit of everyone for years."
"It's a public space. You can't harm the peace of the residents of the neighborhood like that. After all, in other neighborhoods in the city for years, the residents have been complaining that they hear the muezzin from the mosques with a disturbing volume, such as on Yad Labanim Road, Tel Amal, Halisa, and part of Hadar. It's not okay, and it's not acceptable to us either Let them disturb our peace, and it doesn't matter at all what religion it is or what group of people is responsible for it," he says.
"My wife herself also lights candles and accepts Shabbat every Friday night," he continues, "but she is religious herself and does not need the help of loud speakers to remind her that Shabbat is coming. I also don't think any of the residents here need it, secular, religious, or ultra-Orthodox . They got along fine even without it, so why do you need this noise that bothers people? And if it's just someone's lunch break? Imagine if I decide that I accept Shabbat at noon with songs by Hanan Yuval, or Meshina or Iron Maiden? Even if it's just For two minutes, does that sound reasonable?"
Another woman who lives in the neighborhood said: "How can a man do this to the people he lives with? Really inconsiderate. And it has nothing to do with religion at all, it's just rude."
Can you do a big article like this about the muezzin that I listen to every day in my home in Neve Shanan? Thanks
Rebecca I'm shocked.
You have come to such a low point of calling the police to the ultra-Orthodox every Friday because they pray???????
The way you behave is coercion!!!!!
pure shame.
And you really envy the Haredim.
I really don't understand you...
You saw what I wrote.
And all those who continue to show us how opposed they are - you are simply showing us how jealous you are of the Orthodox.
It's not real…
Your soul is crying out
Don't let the ultra-Orthodox take over, just destroy their loudspeakers or go to the synagogues and make the same noise
Unfortunately, they are taking over every part of us.
Stop immediately! I live a floor below him and I have suffered from his illegal businesses such as: a synagogue, including and even opening a kindergarten and a Paprika restaurant. who pray loudly and sing with a huge noise and move chairs and tables... and all this in a private house... a million times I called the police over the noise on Friday and Saturday. Until one day I'll just light a barbeque for them on Shabbat in front of their noses and play loud music and then we'll see!! Shame and shame on the Haifa municipality for not taking care of the ultra-Orthodox bakery!
Religious coercion at its best!!!!!
Each word is more false than the last...
Which kindergarten did he open? Which includes? What a storm.
You're delusional.
Only jealousy speaks from your throat……
The whole band should continue like this and strengthen it in all the neighborhoods in the whole country! In particular, in the areas of the left, let it permeate their ears and bring them back to repentance!
I found out.
This has nothing to do with Dr. Waldman at all.
The roof does not belong to him.
After another clarification I learned that the roof belongs to Maccabi's pharmacy.
I read all your comments and I can only tell you one thing from a professional field:
I am secular and I want to say something important to all my secular brothers...
Do you know who bothers Shabbat songs?
For those whose secularism bothers him...for those who are not reconciled to the fact that he does not keep Shabbat...for those whose conscience prevails over him...
I don't keep Shabbat...but these songs are simply the greatest gift I received!!!
It just reminds me that we have Shabbat - some rest from this haunted life...
There is no coercion here at all - you have completely distorted reality!!!
All in all, there are songs here that kind of bring us back to our roots.
Do you know why the muezzin doesn't bother you? Because you know it has nothing to do with you! It doesn't speak to you!
A human being is disturbed by what touches him in the most inner and painful points of the soul, in the points where he is not whole with himself.
So anyone who wrote a comment here that it bothers them should know that it shows that their soul is screaming...that it is not good with itself (could be in the subconscious.)
Sit with yourself when you hear the Shabbat songs, try to connect with yourself and not deny....
Take off your masks, be calmer, be happier... I love you very much!
And I am very grateful to whoever is responsible for the Shabbat songs and I ask you to continue happily.
You are right in every word, stop opposing and denying our roots.
We are Jews, and we are proud of our Jewishness!!!!
And believe me you will only benefit from it!!!
Only leftists are bothered by it.
A muezzin doesn't bother you.
You leftists are a malignant disease.
The man who calls himself Yorev, you come back and write horrible words. You should turn to God and ask Him if you are allowed to write or even think such a thing. and wait for the answer
It's a shame they didn't record it so we could hear how strong it can be
According to the photo, the loudspeakers are on the roof of the United Clinic under the management of Dr. Waldman. He may be related to this or he may have given his consent to their placement. It may be that the municipality should revoke their business license due to public disturbance.
You are confusing "wrong" with "illegal".
Are you left handed by any chance?
When Clover made loud noises on the roof they were banned because of those who live in the port campus.
In the same way, any loudspeaker that makes public noise should be banned as part of the prevention of noise pollution
And trucks to ban honking from 7 pm to 7 am.
I lived there for two years, between a din that echoes in the neighborhood 24/7, an aluminum cutting studio, a gravestone mason, two construction projects, a gas station, a train station, and improved cars.
Let's talk about Tilatan.
And what about the muezzin doesn't bother you...cowards. What's wrong with Shabbat songs? This is Israel, the state of the Jews, if anyone has forgotten
The people are right, no one has the right to put loudspeakers and as if force the people to listen to Shabbat songs. Everyone can do what they want in their home and not in the public space, it's really rude. In my opinion, he should be sued so that he removes the loudspeakers, this could disturb other people, not all of them are religious, so they do not have to listen to Shabbat songs, and besides, even those who observe Shabbat do not have to listen to Shabbat reception songs with loud voices
didn't ask
Did the police do anything?
she didn't
Was the volume excessive?
In the section of "as high as possible to ruin your day"
When did the residents of the Ziv Center complain about the goods trucks of the businesses standing in the parking lot when the truck is on for nearly 40 minutes and the whole neighborhood sounds like a press?
When did we spend the night on the karaoke that always starts at 23:00 PM?
The Israeli does not realize that he is a sucker until it comes to Judaism, really spectacular
A bunch of zeroes about the muezzin, you don't talk, oh, every day at 5 in the morning, they wake up the whole of Haifa, and that's what bothers you, the stupidity celebrates
Really an empty article, it is not clear who actually set up these speakers?
And as for those who claim that the Mausin does the same thing: what does it have to do with some terrorists who kill, so tell me why they are allowed? Don't be pigs and that's it - treat others as yourself...
At this rate, a fratricidal war is probably on the way - the Haredim have completely worked the brakes... and in the end Iran will be here...
You wanted, Bibi, accept Iran, this is what you wanted and this is only the beginning, come to Bnei Brak and see how the residents are being abused, holding meetings in front of buildings, noise until morning and no sound and beeping, Deri and Gaffani rule the country
Hypocritical and anti-Semitic site! If it was a mosque screaming at 4 in the morning in Arabic to kill Jews, not only would you not make an article out of it, you would also back them up! shame!
The muezzin makes noise 5 times a day and everything is fine, something Jewish in the public space and already a worrying article about takeover and bullshit
Come on, be enlightened a little and accept the other
Because the muezzin five times a day is quieter. What happened??? Two minutes a week bother you so much???
Where is the reaction of the municipality? of the neighborhood committee? of the building owners? of the police? the rabbis of the city? what does the law say? You are journalists, why don't you do professional work. And bring comments from those related to the matter?
As I am the recipient of the Israel Prize for Anonymous Talkbackism
First of all, the speakers you photographed are the speakers of an alarm system. You can't really connect to them and play music. Secondly, I also did not ask for the demonstrations and roadblocks that you are doing and here it does not bother you. Take a deep breath and get over yourself, they all gave you a song, they didn't ask you to convert.
Insolence..immediately take down the speakers
And trans parties too…..
Muazzin Ella and Akbar is fine. Gila residents in Jerusalem. We hear the muezzin in decibels 5 times a day, including Friday and Saturday. who enter our salons. while doing Shabbat rituals. What are the complaints of Shabbat hymns ten minutes before Shabbat begins. does it bother How deep one can be in inner exile. Where is Gaon Yaakov? It is enough to be diasporic Jews.
If the music bothers you, you can switch to a muezzin 5 times a day
They probably would have preferred the wails of the muezzin
Then they wouldn't dare to complain
These are quiet and gentle songs for five minutes
who came to remember the arrival of Shabbat
And it does not disturb those who sit in a cafe and drink coffee to their pleasure with a cake
Shabbat Shalom
The conscience that the songs make them eat them from the inside, poor people, I feel sorry for them, start keeping Shabbat, see how much you enjoy the songs
It's the same with us at Vevon. Peace be upon you on Friday afternoon. What is up? There is probably some intellectual who thinks that forcing loud music on us will bring us closer to religion...you are so disconnected! And if you do it to point a finger in the eye at all the secularists, then you are even more disconnected.
Oh poor muezzin, you have no complaints
What's up with the muezzin who shouts loudly several times a day doesn't it bother you? Unbelievable how hypocritical and evil you are
Everywhere religious items are trying to take over the public space. They also shoot fireworks on holidays from inside the synagogue, who allows them to do that?
They also come with a huge car that really shakes the dreams and make car noise with lights like in Gaza
May their name and memory be blessed
True, this is the religious garbage
Go to hell!
Inshallah, and that you will rise from Dinz Halacha, we will purify you from filth
Sounds like you interpret it as the end of democracy, no less
There is no, and there is no, there is nothing about the pleasantness of Shabbat, everyone can do what they want in their own home, but these pleasantries are really special, they are preferable to music from DiskTech or reading the muezzin
They allow themselves because they are currently in power?
I'm sure that if you close your eyes and breathe to 10 you will find at least one thing that you do to the displeasure and anger of everyone around you,
So rest.
Not to a muezzin blaring through the loudspeakers and not to excessive noise of Haredi Shabbat entrance music with a child lead singer in honor of the best Shabbat, a cannon shot like in ancient times, a short, loud noise that hits the target, you understand as soon as the Shabbat comes and shut yourself up at home preparing for the Friday dinner until Shabbat evening, you are not allowed to listen to loud foreign music so as not to Hurting the feelings of the religious neighbors in the neighborhood is left to crack crackers on the balcony or sleep late on Shabbat or watch cable for those who turn on the TV and for those who have a car drive farther than the curfew or walk around the neighborhood or read a book on Shabbat culture talk on cell phones until they also turn off the cell networks on Shabbat along with the cables And don't forget to turn on the electricity for the lighting at home before Shabbat begins without paying a bill for the cheap electricity rate in our country.
Why are you surprised that the state is replacing Iran-style religiosity? Is this what the state chose???? "Is this the majority of the people???.
It turns out that this happens all over the country.
This is probably a timed operation with a hand directed from above.
We've seen what happens when it comes from a muezzin…
And to the point, I don't have a problem with it but, can do more quietly and not by force.
I would also expect the same consideration from Karaoke.
It's interesting that every day prayers are heard loudly from the mosques and no one is bothered by it.. cowards..
This is just the beginning, the brazen ones trying to rule the country think the sun shines out of their ass. Tomorrow it will be in every city.
Asking if you want to join the creative team.
An autoantishim who is convinced that the sun shines out of his ass.
Anti-Semitic slurs. Maybe a minute of pleasant Shabbat songs...
I wish it was like this in the whole country.
It's unbelievable how much anti-Semitism and hatred there is in the Jewish state, for music once a week, and how much love for Muslims at four o'clock in the morning in Mazin every day. And fireworks and gunshots every day.
"Friday afternoon calm"
You can imagine what peace there is in the center of Ziv and the area is full of cars, buses and people.
They're just trying to give the ultra-Orthodox a bad name, I don't support it.
As a non-Orthodox resident, I'm actually really happy about the Shabbat songs that are heard, a little Shabbat atmosphere won't hurt anyone.
The melody is short and symbolizes in a pure and simple way that Shabbat is approaching
I don't see anything bad in it, but a lot of benefit
You are cognitively exhausting with the position,
In Hayat, find a recipe for a glass of water and relax with the quotation marks and convoluted wording,
Or simply give your place to people who are really interested in conveying relevant information to the readers of the city and forward your propaganda to the Hiffaf family WhatsApp
And when parties are held at night with songs that secular people like, do we have to tolerate it? Come on, enough hypocrisy!!! Want to complain about noise - also complain about the noise your children make at night when people put their children to sleep!!!
Hahaha. If it was a party of some venom from the cousins who would complain, the muezzin at 5 in the morning is more "fun", enjoy
I read the comments and I must point out that people have forgotten where they were born and what country they belong to.
Maybe I'll mention a few who have forgotten.
We live in the Land of Israel, which as far as I know is the state of the Jews.
A Jew is a religion and Shabbat is an inseparable part of the Jewish people Shabbat is a holy Shabbat. Regarding the speakers, I do not disagree that it is loud and disturbing whether there are children resting or adults. But on the other hand, as a Jewish state, I would not only close gates, I would also give reports to those who travel, Yom Kippur style.
Those who don't want to live in a religious country can leave to any other country anyway, you are a bad touch.
All of our family (except for a few Arabs) came here because this is the state of the Jews where Jerusalem is the holy city.
Stupid comments from parties who didn't read the article ……
Do not treat others the way you do not want to be treated
It is written that the poor residents suffer from the muezzin for those who did not understand...
Anarchy, coercion and taking over the public space is not okay!!!
Not of the rightists, not of the leftists, not of the Arabs, not of the Jews
You are anti-Semitic. You write about a mosque in Haifa like this??