'There was full funding for the imprisoned neighborhoods in Haifa - Klish lost it'

1. I'm interested in all those who oppose new construction in Haifa, where do they live? Didn't they cut in the rock? Didn't they cut down trees? They have no traffic problems, parking? Disgusting bunch of hypocrites.
   Everything that happens in Haifa deserves slams and crime.

2. No neighborhood is closed. All of you are locked in the private car inside which you will stand for an hour in the traffic jams on the 'Rescue Road in the Wadiyot' and you will run on foot when the fire and smoke will get closer to you and you will not understand why there was no bus for quick evacuation and instead of one people suffocated in the private car from smoke and permeation and lost their lives. Evacuation must be done in an urban area, to an urban area. The rows of vehicles parked on the entrance roads to the neighborhoods should be cleared and a public transportation lane should be added to them, which in an emergency will become a lane for ambulances, evacuation vehicles and fire engines. There is no other solution and such a solution will also cost a thousand times more than solving the destruction of the valleys for inferno roads that will trap vehicles in an even more dangerous way (imagine a stuck car followed by another 200 as the fire advances in the winds of the mountainside). Only escape routes to the Moriah axis and also in it the removal of a car parking lane along its entire length. In addition, the establishment in each neighborhood of 3-4 emergency water tanks that can be released in the direction of Huadiot and connected to the fire engines like the lesson from the Carmel Park. There is no solution of more roads and importing traffic jams at the Matam and Moriah intersection towards Neve David and Shaar Aliya. Obviously not polite.

3. The closed neighborhoods are a danger to the lives of the population, the mayor of Haifa needs a bulldozer to act on behalf of the residents, this mayor is Ahithophel and in the next event, which we hope will not happen, she should pay a personal price for her neglect and lack of activity for the benefit of the residents

4. It turns out that even failed architects understand that additional exits from the neighborhoods are required. What is preventing the city of Haifa from immediately opening the Kabir connection to Camp David? What prevents you from immediately confirming and paving more exits? It is enough to reduce the budget pensions a little and there will already be money...

5. The Naamat neighborhood is also a neighborhood locked in a wadi with dense pine trees that in the event of a fire, God forbid, the residents do not have the option of leaving until Rech Shimshon. The distance is a kilometer and the residents are mostly adults. In 1995, when the neighborhood was built, there was a plan for public transportation, for some reason this plan was canceled and in 20018, 2 more tall buildings were built at the entrance to the street with about 100 tenants who park the vehicles that heat up at the entrance to the street and block this small one-way street. The tenants contacted the municipality several times and warned before occupancy and during construction about the catastrophe that would occur and requested the introduction of public transportation in order to allow more private vehicles. There was no answer neither in the Yahav period nor in the Kelish period. And the place as mentioned during a disaster there is no way out!!

6. Yahav was a huge spendthrift who inflated the municipality, left debts and it's good that he's gone, we didn't expect to get as mayor the worst of all who replaced him, a disaster!!

7. Big disaster cliché!!!!!!

8. What's right is right. Einat Kalish's problematic human relations caused severe damage to the city's residents. She quarreled with the central government and is unable to promote projects.

9. Another year away from our lives, the damage you caused to the city will not be repaired even 10 years after your passing.
   A mayor without administrative experience and without political experience.
   You destroyed our beautiful city.
   You understand what every resident of Haifa does, that this is your last year, so don't cause more damage, stay quiet for another year and start looking for work.
   Shabbat Shalom

   • Ramat Goral, Ramat Shamir... call together by name: the continued neglect of urban renewal in East Haifa and huge areas for thousands of apartments in the lower city in favor of the destruction of the last green wadi hills left to us. Because some self-interested entrepreneurs operate a lobbyist press and also refuse to exchange land. This will be the enormous tragedy of Haifa. From a green city to a gray city on both sides, one degenerates into crime and neglect and the 'garage' areas around the Government Kiryat are hundreds of dunams of empty and ruined buildings. And the second is unique valleys, spectacular open areas with aggressive shaving like in the Morot Verdia quarry, Total shaving and another neighborhood of private vehicles that will jam traffic for an hour at the exits to Freud and die. Then the experts will build a freeway bridge from Ramat Meshim and Ramat Mashimid directly to highway 4, bypassing Carmel Castle on pillars hahaha.. and traffic jams on highway 4 They will offer a double decker road on another huge bridge lol.
     Unbelievable urban planning that the whole world cries in Haifa continues to destroy the nature that is still left. And the Druze will destroy what will remain in the Carmel Park, they have already torn 2000 dunams from it, not bad another 2000, another 2000 in the end like Paradise, the Carmel Park will be shaved and their villas will reach Route 4, this is the goal. A disturbed country with no urban planning at all

10. 700 units and destruction in a huge quarrying of the entire amazing Goat Hill for the neighborhood which will require roads in quarrying in the style of the Vardia quarries, and two huge interchanges for hundreds of millions, or an exchange of land and the construction of 7 20-story towers with 100 each like the future Ramat Hanasi Benaot Peres. This is what is at stake In the destruction of the Goat Hill and the valleys on both sides of it, how does a responsible municipality work - think for yourself.

    • Eyal, there are 2,040 apartments in the Ramat Gural project (the one you mistakenly call Givat Aizim - the former name of the hill) - and it is a total failure and I filed a petition to the court about it. So it is not clear what you are talking about. If you mean, when you say Givat Aizim, the plan involving a company that is controlled by part of the Ofer family and which includes 720 apartments - then this is a completely different plan and it is called Hef/2185a - the company in which one of the Ofer family is involved only has a part in it and not the largest one, This part was increased, as part of the Ofer Towers plan, by 132 additional apartments - exactly the same high-rise buildings that you preach so much for their construction - it's fine that you support a company owned by one of the Ofer family, although I am against the construction of high-rise buildings - this is my personal opinion. As for the giant carvings - this is exactly what is there, although on a more modest scale in the above-mentioned Ofer Towers plan that you support, as well as your support for the construction monster of the Azorim company in Neve David - the same construction monsters in the Pinoy Binui plan in relation to which you preach and experts and clichés (which sometimes come out It's a good thing) they explain that this is a slum neighborhood that you support.

    • Eyal, the future neighborhood of Peres or by its correct name Neot Peres B - is a dense and damaging construction monster that will create horrific traffic jams - on August 16.8.2022, 20, a notice was published about the possibility of submitting objections to the serious default associated with it - within 2,500 days - and that is the cancellation of the regulation of transportation solutions, in general This is the cancellation of a major public transportation regulation - the Matron project that is supposed to serve this complex - since the Haifa municipality, the planning authorities and the Israeli government failed to regulate and promote the Matron and the transportation solutions in order to allow the immediate construction of 3,200 additional apartments in total opposition to the conditions included in the plan. So you mean this failed neighborhood? What don't you know why are you alive? Neot Peres B is a plan that illegally destroys Nahal Amiram, Nahal Ovadia, and Nahal Ahozah (which was also partially destroyed in Neot Peres A) and the amazing olive trees in its area - I filed an objection, filed a petition with the district court, filed an appeal with the Supreme Court - I invested resources Enormous and a lot of money - to stop the serious failure that only part of it was detailed here - and you further recommend that for this swamp, for this catastrophe, the value of 10 apartments be transferred (and this is the right thing to do) from the Ramat Gural plan to the silent hallways plan in Hazoya? After all, in order to cancel the Ramat Gural plan, according to the economic value, you need at least XNUMX neighborhoods in the area of ​​the southern entrances plan B - with a proper plan and not the serious failure that was approved - and what will they do with all the developers who have already sold them the rights to a significant part of the Naot Peres B plan? And what will happen to the poor people who won the price for the tenant in this delusional program? I guess a thorough person like you might be able to give a solution, just one last thing, think before typing on the keyboard. Think, Eyal.

11. There were also building rights on the dolphinarium for hundreds of apartments on the coastline. This is the difference between a responsible municipality that stands on its hind legs and fights to protect the beaches, the streams, all the natural assets that belong to the entire public and their destruction is the destruction of the development of the city and its economy, and the municipality of Haifa that surrenders to those who covet the last hills and valleys And the unique ones on a world level for the more modest and more supporting walls for the villas instead of making land exchanges and literally taking them down from the hats to the western entrances for building to a height. Haifa disgracefully works to destroy its natural assets. This is how you climb for 50 years and abandon another neighborhood by climbing and erasing the green to Givat Jabla and crossing the beautiful Nahal Eben that became extinct at the hands of Harfa municipality and its failed roadology and planning.

12. Well, the sword is out of the bag. Ilan is not interested in dealing with the emergency in existing neighborhoods and the traffic jams in Haifa, he is interested in the destruction of the last hills 'for the landowners' - how the Ofer family took over the land for thousands of apartments and what kind of people worked to destroy the Goat Hill is already a new topic and not here. He is 'obsessed' about transportation issues to promote environmental damage neighborhoods that are completely private car oriented that will load 10,000 vehicles on the ridge axis and the Matam junction. Damage upon damage upon damage and his solutions are more roads i.e. moving the traffic jams from 50 minutes in Moriah to 50 minutes at the exit of the Huadiot road. Delusional, destructive , and is completely devoid of any logic.

    • Dear Eyal, once again it turns out that the keyboard precedes the head, the keyboard precedes thought and examination. I understand that it is emotion that leads. But a sequence of such nonsense, but you are allowed to write nonsense too and we all respect that. Every person has the right to express himself, provided that he does not incite incitement, violence and torture - and it is absolutely clear that you are not guilty of this. However, it is forbidden to slander and reproach with baseless and offensive claims. Unfortunately, in this matter you are, it seems, a sinner, and it is better to put things on their merits. Beyond typing on the keyboard I didn't see that you did anything. In contrast to you, I submitted an objection to the 'Tel Mana 10' program and I insist that it not be approved. One of the main reasons is that the plan creates a real danger to life due to the prevention of a solution for closed neighborhoods - the result of the destructive plan is a danger to the lives of many residents in the area - residents of Harofeh Street, Lincoln, Lachish Lachish neighborhood, Tel Mana, etc. - the resistance is intended, among other things, to save Thad Street "L" - which is a high-quality solution for eliminating traffic jams for the above-mentioned streets to the Carmel Ridge axis and others. Of course, I did not invent this street, it is the approved and high-quality planning from the British Mandate period and it was not paved due to irrelevant considerations, in part, on the face of it, it seems that corruption rules, so instead of just fiddling on the keyboard, you have to do - I do and you tell me false stories that did not exist and were not created .

    • Dear Eyal, since the planning of the Goat Hill - whose updated name is the Ramat Gural plan - was carried out by the municipality and was approved with a serious omission in the planning committees - and the whole point of it is damage to the city and the owners of the lots - I filed an objection and an administrative petition to the court in order to remove the disgrace, the serious stain in this matter, The one affixed to the forehead of the Haifa municipality and the planning authorities. This is a huge investment in money and resources - in an attempt to correct the serious omissions - I am doing and working to correct, even when this creates a difficult conflict with the establishment. What are you doing? Chattering on the keyboard and slandering me as if I were responsible for the omissions. Eyal, get over yourself and it's better as soon as possible.

    • Dear Eyal, I prepared and submitted high-quality planning proposals for the regulation of traffic and transportation in the southwestern slopes of the city of Haifa. It cost me a huge investment of resources and a lot of money. The planning is mainly based on arranging high-quality conditions for walking, using bicycles (70 km of high-quality and accessible bicycle paths in the Carmel Ridge) and arranging efficient, accessible and high-quality public transportation. What did you do? Apart from irresponsible and baseless typing on the keyboard while slandering me, for no injustice Like. Eyal thinks, checks before typing. Eyal thinks and is careful before slandering.

13. Every word is locked in. Come on, go

14. Dear Eyal, you are complaining to me that I am involved in the exercise of construction rights in hills that have not yet been built. Eyal, it's not my fault, during the British Mandate there were great planners here. The excellent planners have approved plans for the implementation of residential construction in the right and proper places with quality planning. A part has not been built to this day, in fact the construction was illegally frozen while causing enormous damage to the landowners. If you want to prevent the construction, to actually continue to harm the landowners and the supply of residential apartments in Haifa (it is about 11,000 apartments in high-quality and non-crowded construction), then, as I have already explained to you before on this live site, this has a heavy economic meaning - payment of compensation in the amount of Billions of NIS - which will have to be paid by the planning authorities, the municipality of Haifa and the State of Israel. You may not care about the money and you may care, in any case it is the duty of every citizen to act to reduce the damage and thus reduce, as much as possible, the compensation to the victims. I It is certain that you do not wish to harm anyone, therefore, preventing the realization of the construction or delaying it has a very heavy price and it is wrong to continue the harm; in other words, I am not guilty of the harm, and I am not guilty of my blessed actions to reduce the harm and get the best out of the lands for the benefit of their owners and the public in general. Important Understand, people have land and no one is allowed to damage it. When damage is done, you pay for it.

15. Dear Eyal, you emphasize public transportation as a single or significant solution to transportation problems - you miss the whole, which is a comprehensive solution to all problems - this is exactly the high-quality planning that I submitted, which includes, for the first time, excellent solutions also in the context of public transportation, a high-quality planning that you are not familiar with and unfortunately, without knowing it , you complain and make wrong references, too bad.

16. Dear Eyal, in addition to my previous response regarding you, I would like to make it clear that I am not seeking to destroy anything, certainly not the last wadis and hills as you said. I am sorry for your position, it is not correct. Of course, I am not responsible for the transportation failures in the city of Haifa, rather, I consistently oppose them while investing enormous resources, so, for example, I invested a lot of money and enormous resources in preparing and submitting planning proposals to solve the transportation system, mainly in the southwestern slopes of the city of Haifa. These proposals place the emphasis on the highest level of accessibility for walking and high-quality bicycle routes with an unprecedented extent of 70 km in the mountain range, all in order to save on the use of cars in general and to prevent the neighborhoods from becoming completely dependent on private cars as the Haifa Municipality promotes to its employees and to the employees of the planning authorities I am also strongly opposed to the appalling overcrowding in the Binui eviction neighborhoods, including the Neve David neighborhood, which are the next social and transportation failure we are facing.

17. Dear Eyal, of course you have a full right, like any other person, to express your opinion / position and everyone must respect that. There is only one small problem, in addition to detailing your position, and regardless of what I or others think of it, you attach baseless accusations against me. It is inappropriate and wrong to do. You accuse me of supposedly organizing the defiance responses against you under another name - this thing has no basis in reality, I did not predict another person and I did not write anything against you under another name, but I only used my name and that against your positions, in various articles of Chai Fa, which in my opinion are partly wrong . Maybe someone defied you - it certainly and certainly has nothing to do with me. It's a shame you slander me for not being unjust. I suggest that you announce that you retract this baseless accusation, something that was not and was not created.

18. A mayor who doesn't care about the city's neighborhoods should end her job, a disgrace

19. The residents of the neighborhoods themselves oppose the opening of the roads
    So maybe Yona Yahav in his extreme age forgot it.

    • All those roads will drain into congested intersections in Neveh David, on the sea road and on the Mtm. Ramat Hanasi and the evacuation of Binui in Neveh David and Shaar Aliya will flood the area with thousands of vehicles. Already today there are traffic jams on the sea road of 30 minutes. All those "access" roads are death traps when fires The residents of the neighborhoods understand very well that access roads to the west will turn their neighborhood into a freeway like Hayam and Freud roads. And at the end of those roads, huge traffic jams will be waiting at the intersections of Beno David and South Haifa. \
      It's a drunkard's solution. Apart from the destruction of thousands of dunams of wadis, nothing will be done.

20. There seems to be a bit of confusion here in the claims in the article and the answers. There is no doubt that we are living here on borrowed time in the trap of closed neighborhoods that affects the entire city. A serious event in the city, due to the locked-in neighborhoods and the transportation failures, will lead, God forbid, to enormous damages and the risk of human life even in neighborhoods that are not locked up - it is no longer possible to continue to manage a dream - we need to take care of the basic existence itself - for good transportation solutions - to prevent the risk resulting from the failures. In order to deal with the problems, it is not enough to just talk and act, something that has been avoided for decades. First one must understand and analyze the problems everywhere and propose a quality planning that solves problems - we have not yet reached this first and important stage. The correct planning is the basis - not waste or, as is suspected, the theft of the billions - first of all planning - here they argue about the money - when they do not provide solutions - but produce, from time to time, new omissions that exacerbate the situation. See, for example, the failure of the Ramat Gural plan - the cancellation of the transport connection to the west - the same connection that was approved in the 2000 plan (approved in 2019) a planning catastrophe - a real death trap; See, for example, the failure of the Tel Mana 10 plan - a real danger to the lives of nearby residents and the elimination of a transportation solution for tens of thousands of people - the failure of the Tel Aharon Lincoln plan - a waste of NIS 50 million on a plan that does not allow the realization of construction - since 1998, they have been working on a plan that is dangerous in terms of transportation - Prevents saving lives - planning that conforms to the concept that only a small part of the land owners - and we know exactly who - will build - all the rest who are not connected or are suspected of buying the officials - will not build - and the restrictions are achieved by means of dangerous transportation planning that prevents the implementation of construction - prevents traffic Reasonable for vehicles, public transportation and pedestrians. The planning principles that serve the Bribery Combine (including the creation of gated neighborhoods) - as suspected - create a risk to human life in Ramat Gural, Tel Aharon Lincoln, Morad Golda and, of course, the existing neighborhoods.

    • All that interests Ilan Bornstein, who also organizes the defiant reactions against me under a different name, is to destroy the last Uadits and the last hills for his real estate projects in Givat Aizim, to flood the Carmel axis with another 10,000 vehicles of the steep topography neighborhoods that he insists on building by destroying the Uadits in front of Ramat Golda and an estate, and then it sounds like there is another access road, but thousands of vehicles have been added and the Horev center is closed for 50 minutes throughout the day, and maybe you will offer more Carmel tunnels and another bridge over the existing roads in Neve David because the traffic jams will be drained from those new roads there as well and at the Matam intersection we will have to wait 50 subtlety. maybe more.
      Without an evacuation solution and non-trafficked roads - only public transportation routes, there is no solution for an emergency and even in routine, everything is getting clogged up. Those who wait 20 minutes today at the exit from the neighborhoods to Moriah, will wait 50 minutes down the "new" road from the neighborhoods to Neve David where the traffic jams of Ramat Hanasi will await them + Evacuation of the Neve David building, which also includes thousands more private cars. Gentlemen, this will not work. Take it in. Only public transportation. There is no place and no other patent.

21. One more thing, what about the money that Miri Regev took from Mipa Nof, and what about cleaning and parking

    • That is to say, in other words, it is Yafe Nof who took money from the citizen and not the other way around.
      In a free and healthy market, such a body does not need to continue to make a living, instead the work is given to other bodies that know and are able to perform.
      This is what Miri Regev did.

      Not a friend of Miri Regev, not that I owe you a debt, but I am anticipating a cure for the blow.
      We will not progress anywhere as a nation if we remain at the low level of "name very very specific X do very very specific thing Y"
      If your heart is fond of Lipa Nof, submit a contract to them.

22. There is no need for one shekel, you need to find an operator who is willing to build the connections in exchange for the payment of a toll from the drivers

23. Mr. Yona Yahav.. a tireless subversive.. you are pathetic. That's enough, relax already please.

    • You probably understand pinks from Argentina and not the exploits and pathetic claims of Klish who does not understand her role as mayor at all.
      You remind me that a deaf man heard a mute who said that a blind man saw Klish keep something that spoils her false promises... An urban disaster that was chosen by me as a total disaster...

24. As usual, Klish's words are related to the clouds and the crows blooming. Whoever canceled is a cliché and of course Katz pulled the money with the cancellation - so a cliché as usual is flowers and not doves
    And finally, they will say what they will say about Yona, the budget bulldozer that he brought to the city during the difficult times such as the Second Lebanon and much more - a cliché not only did Hirba fail as well

25. According to the results of the last elections, the Haifaites can only ask for help from Malpid and the joint.
    No normal government will approve aid of any kind to Haifa, because the Haifaites oppose anyone who cares, cares or wants to care for them. They prefer to smear the only ones who helped Haifa.

26. Yahav confused the mind, Klish confused the mind, and Tzioni confuses the mind.
    There are no closed neighborhoods, there are neighborhoods without public transportation and emergency shelters that can be used in an emergency for fire rescue and evacuation vehicles.
    Rows and rows of parked vehicles must be abandoned in order to open up the neighborhoods towards the ridge axis and transfer the population to public transportation
    There will also be destruction and fumes in the construction of completely unnecessary roads that will waste hundreds of millions of shekels on asphaltology.
    As Haifa is covered with asphalt, the quality of life in it decreases, the traffic jams increase and instead of efficient and fast public transportation, you get traffic jams of private vehicles.
    The obvious solution if we take a neighborhood like Carmelia, which today is under siege, it is the businesses at the Zafarir intersection that the customers park there and the vendors who unload goods and the vandals who block roads without enforcement are the ones who create the problem. In Carmelia, we need to give up parking cars in Zafririm along an entire side, create a public transportation route along the entire length of Zafririm Street that goes directly to the intersection with Moriah. A public transport unit with a separate public transportation system in Moriah, this in an emergency will allow buses, ambulances and fire trucks to operate and efficiently evacuate thousands of residents without the need for any additional roads.

    • Don't they need to leave the neighborhood?
      Look at the manifesto you've whipped up here and it's all round and round,
      We understand that you don't like cars. There is no connection here.

    • And you are one of the greatest confusers of the mind that does not know what it is confusing about.
      Everything that Datoen Yahav says is true, Kalish has canceled budgeted projects by the state, and no public transportation will drive through congested roads during a fire or an earthquake

    • Dear Eyal,
      As your eyes read here in the comments, you have made yourself a laughing stock. You constantly pump up your archaic opinions, you demonstrate incredible ignorance in the whole transportation issue and in the issues of a safe exit from the imprisoned neighborhoods.
      Maybe we will give up the vehicles and go back to the public stagecoaches?!
      Please read the state auditor's report from 2017 following the fire in Carmel.
      Unfortunately, I tell you bluntly: enough of your nonsense!!

    • To everyone who reacts against me, those spoiled brats with 3 vehicles per family who wish to destroy Wadi Sheikh, Wadi Lotem, Wadi Azov so that their jeeps can race into the traffic jams which of course will simply move to the intersections leaving the Neve David roads - you are confusing our minds and our disordered municipality as it multiplies roads This is how the accidents increase, the traffic jams increase and the city is abandoned because of the destruction of the quality of life.
      This was understood by another idiot like me - Ron Huldai, who does exactly what I said - removes free parking along the streets, turns them into public transportation routes, restores sanity, quiet and quality of life, encourages walking. By the way, to evacuate Carmelia, you can use buses to evacuate 100 people at once. 100 private vehicles leaving instead of one bus will create traffic jams that later we will again need reports from the State Comptroller (which I definitely read) about the failure of evacuation roads that have become death traps. And about the lack of public transportation that could quickly evacuate instead of thousands of cars stuck on downhill roads just as happened when the university issued an order to evacuate She and hundreds of vehicles tried to get down in Horev and Froid and blocked roads for rescue and firefighting vehicles.
      Anyone who says "maybe we'll go back to the public stagecoaches" are arrogant spoiled people who haven't seen a bus in decades, refuse to understand that Haifa's future is solely in the development of public transportation and continue to silence everyone who wants quality of life over crazy roadology and parking lots instead of playgrounds. We won't let you destroy the city for more parking spaces for your spoiled ass.

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