The imprisoned neighborhoods in Haifa remain imprisoned
One of the main lessons from the fire that happened in November 2016 in Haifa, was that every neighborhood needs more than one way out. The intention is that each neighborhood will have more than one road that allows entering and exiting it.
In the fire in 2016, one of the neighborhoods that was hit the hardest was the new Romema and Givat Oranim. When it was immediately necessary to evacuate the students at the Romema Nigonim school in the neighborhood because the fire had already reached it as well, all the parents and grandparents began to arrive, all at once through "Oran" and "Hafareh" streets. The thing that significantly helped the evacuation was that the neighborhood has 4 exits. But what if, God forbid, a fire broke out in a neighborhood with only one exit road? Then a bottleneck may form, through which it is very difficult to leave the neighborhood, certainly when it is an emergency situation where everyone wants to quickly escape from the danger. In the end, the last of the children were forced to walk, with the fire lit in their wake. A major disaster was miraculously avoided.
A real need for buffer zones
Another weighty lesson from the fire is the critical need for buffer zones. In the Ramot Sapir neighborhood there was permission to establish a buffer zone in the area between the trees and the neighborhood itself, and this is one of the reasons that the neighborhood was hardly damaged by the great fire. In recent years there has been an attempt to create additional buffer zones in several neighborhoods in the city. According to residents, it is very important that there be early and detailed planning of the Ha'itz area so that it fulfills its purpose at the moment of truth, if God forbid there is another fire.
What are gated neighborhoods?
Closed neighborhoods are neighborhoods that have one exit, only one road from which you can enter or leave the neighborhood. For example, this is what happens in the Dania neighborhood, from where you can leave via only one road leading to the Dania junction, and there is no road through which you can leave the neighborhood according to Meta.
When we talk about closed neighborhoods in Haifa, we mean any of the neighborhoods on the ridge, where only one road connects them to Moriah Boulevard, or Horev Street for example. This is what happens on Harofeh Street (Estate), Kabvir, Dania as mentioned, Ramat Begin and Ramat Golda.
According to the existing plan, these neighborhoods are supposed to connect downwards to the coastal road (Route 4). So that in the event that a fire breaks out or some situation occurs that requires a quick evacuation of the residents, it will be possible to carry it out both upwards, towards the axis, and downwards, which will naturally speed up the evacuation.
Not even one neighborhood was connected to another outlet
Since the fire of November 2016 and despite the clear understanding that it is not possible to leave closed neighborhoods as they are, in fact not a single neighborhood has been connected to an additional exit, and from the publications of the Haifa municipality it appears that there is now an attempt to seek funding for the project.
The danger to the residents of the city of Haifa is clear, especially when every few years a large fire breaks out in Haifa, and this is not a one-time event. In the 2016 fire, hundreds of apartments burned down, and luckily, apart from residents who suffered from smoke inhalation, there were no casualties, but the goal is that even if, God forbid, another big fire occurs, we can avoid a disaster that will make many pay a very high price. If exit roads are not built from the imprisoned neighborhoods, the danger remains.
Where is the money for the imprisoned neighborhoods?
So far there is complete agreement of all the parties concerned.
In an interview given by Yahav Lahi Fe, he claimed that in 2018 there was a budgeted plan, to the extent of about NIS 4 billion, for the implementation of a matron along the ridge. As part of the plan, the Ministry of Transportation will also budget for the connection of several closed neighborhoods to Route 4. According to representatives of the Ministry of Transportation, Kalish canceled the project upon taking office and the money went to Nahariya for realization that year.
Mayor Dr. Einat Kalish Rotem claims that it is not true that the Ministry of Transportation offered her money to build roads from all the closed neighborhoods, Ahuza (Doctor's Street), Kabvir, Carmelia and more.
Municipal employees from the time of the previous mayor, Yona Yahav, claim that the Ministry of Transportation offered full funding for roads in exchange for a matron from the French Carmel University, and Klish Rotem was by no means ready for a matron, so the Ministry of Transportation transferred the funds to another city. The spokesman for the Ministry of Transportation, Avner Ovadia, who tried for more than a week to check what happened there in 2019, when Kalish Rotem sat down in the mayor's chair, returned with an answer that he could not go that far back and verify what was there and how it happened, that in the end the roads were not paved .
A mayor is required to maintain good relations with government offices
Each city has a budget that consists of property taxes, fines and levies it collects. In addition to this income, the city also needs help from the state in order to carry out large projects. Part of the role of the mayor and those subordinate to him is to maintain good relations with the various government ministries in order to receive budgets of a large size, which will allow the city to be promoted. There are local politicians who explain that once a week it is necessary to go up to Jerusalem and meet with the relevant ministers, the heads of their bureaus and their assistants in order to receive funds, which will enable the city to be developed.
It turns out that it is not easy to be a mayor and manage the third largest city in Israel. Besides the fact that you have to manage thousands of municipal employees, take care of the cleanliness of the city, the service that the residents receive, entertainment during the holidays, the layering of the roads and the educational buildings, you also have to "get your hands dirty" and engage in petty politics. Each mayor does things as he sees fit, of course.
The result in the field is this:
Again and again we see fires breaking out across the country, the fire and the winds intensifying them, and the roads from the closed neighborhoods can definitely save lives and determine whether a fire in Haifa will only damage houses and property, or will cause a terrible disaster like the fire in Carmel in December 2010.
The roads to the imprisoned neighborhoods are not a luxury or cosmetic, it is not about benches in the Hadar neighborhood near businesses, or a cultural matter, it is about saving lives, something that will differentiate between life and death, and yet, for some reason, there is no budget for this and the situation remains as it was.
The response of the Ministry of Transportation
Avner Ovadia, spokesman for the Ministry of Transportation, said he is trying to talk to people from that time, so far without success.
The spokesman for fire and rescue, Rabbi Reshef Amir Segir, said:
A committee headed by the Haifa municipality is looking for a solution for the imprisoned neighborhoods in the city.
Chief of Defense and Publicity of Fire and Rescue in the Coastal District, Rabbi Reshef Amir Segir, claims that the Haifa station in the Coastal District is prepared for forest and forest fires in urban areas, by means of a systematic work plan, trainings, preparations and procedures, in order to provide an operational response with strength and speed, in the event that a fire breaks out .
"Since the fire in November 2016 and following the reform of the Israel fire and rescue system to improve the capacity and operational readiness for firefighting, rescue and rescue, both routine and emergency, the Haifa station has been greatly strengthened through resources, mainly in the power building, with necessary organizational changes, the splitting of the Haifa station and Kiryat, equipping with dedicated means, assimilating Technological means, command and control and adapting the operational response to demographic development, climate change, mass transportation, tunnels, the new port, etc. At the same time, work is being done by a committee chaired by the Haifa Municipality to provide a solution for the imprisoned neighborhoods in Haifa. The work is in advanced stages."
Today there are about eight reports of the KBA for the implementation of buffer zones in areas that have not been treated for a year and a half
Against the forces of nature and the extreme weather, which causes huge fires, it is not possible to prevent, but to reduce the damage to human life and property, through proper preparation, reducing the spread of fire by reducing the fire load, creating buffer zones and clearing waste.
In recent years, hundreds of buffer zones have been created on the slopes of neighborhoods in the city, as well as treatment of groves near protected buildings and facilities. At the same time, the buffer zones are not sufficient, and it is necessary to make dozens more buffer zones in neighborhoods bordering forests and trees. Today there are about eight reports from the Israel Defense Forces for the implementation of buffer zones in areas that have not been treated for a year and a half.
The cooperation between the municipality and firefighting
The Haifa fire station and the municipality are in full contact and cooperation to promote the issue. For example, at the initiative of the Haifa station, a rocket tour was arranged for the mayor of the city with the Haifa Police Department, Sub-Tafser Yitzhak Suisa, which led to the establishment of a special committee together with the mayor, whose task is to determine the order of priority for treatment, a budget for the training of the confined neighborhoods, with an emphasis on exits and entrances, water infrastructures, lines Chaitz and maintaining a long-term continuity in plant care. In addition, meetings are held with representatives of the municipality, police, RTG and all the relevant bodies in full cooperation before any assessments for unusual / extreme weather.
The Mayor of Haifa, together with the Ministry of the Interior and all the security forces are working together to find transportation solutions for the imprisoned neighborhoods in Haifa
"Roads to the imprisoned neighborhoods in Haifa are the order of the hour," said the Mayor of Haifa, Einat Kalish Rotem, during a tour and work meeting she held a few weeks ago.
The meeting was intended to mobilize all the relevant factors to find a solution to provide an additional way out in an emergency for "locked neighborhoods" - neighborhoods that have only one entrance and exit, which is a great difficulty in the residents' escape from them and in the flow of rescue forces to them in an emergency.
In addition to the mayor, the head of the Haifa district in the Ministry of the Interior - Faiz Hana, the commander of the Haifa district in the Home Front Command - Col. Elad Adri, the commander of the Haifa Police Station - Sen. Haim Ezran, the KBA commanders and the Haifa city engineer - participated in the meeting. Ariel Waterman and other officials from the engineering and operations administrations of the Haifa municipality. All the officials who participated in the meeting expressed their commitment and full agreement to the need for rapid advancement of the planning of the roads and their demolition.
The security officials and the district director at the Ministry of the Interior adopted the mayor's position, according to which relatively narrow emergency roads should be promoted, with minimal damage to natural resources.
The mayor claims that for three years she has been working to find creative solutions for the imprisoned neighborhoods of Haifa, and this "keeps sleep from her eyes", according to her.
Another cliché adds:
"For this purpose, I recruited Pekar and KBA to assist us, and in addition I raised the issue before the Chief of Staff and the Minister of Defense during their visit to Haifa last year. I was very familiar with the old plans and in recent years I was able to lead a profound change in perception, with the minimization of damage to nature, and also a drastic cost reduction. My approach is that we should strive for narrower, shorter roads and in places that are not as sensitive as the wadis. It is also necessary to strive for the roads to serve only the residents of the neighborhoods, and not lead to urban traffic crossing within residential neighborhoods. No resident wants highways under the house or in the middle of the neighborhood. A small, local road for each neighborhood is the efficient solution for everyone."
The lessons offered in the article are not realistic.
Exit roads from the neighborhoods - their cost is infinite because of the topography. In another 50 years we will be asked why they were not carried out.
Fire separation lines - they mean the elimination of an important part of the forest and vegetation and the creation of clearings around the neighborhoods, and are not useful anyway because the fire jumps in the wind for tens of meters.
On the other hand, there is a simple, economical, quick-to-implement lesson: surrounding the neighborhoods with a water line with sprinklers along it, for early activation on Sharab days by the fire fighters, to prevent it from igniting in advance, and to extinguish it if it nevertheless broke out.
There is no need for roads Evacuation of residents from neighborhoods that were mentioned as "prisons" can be done by elevators similar to the beach elevators initiated by the municipality of Netanya. At the edge of the neighborhoods: west of Ramat Eshkol, west of Kabirim-Labuna, west of Carmelia-Wicho, west of Ahuza-Harofa Construction of vertical elevators that will be used by the beaches for walking and bringing bicycles down to the beaches. The elevators will be dug inside the mountain so that they will not cause any visual damage like roads. The elevators will go out On Huadiot Road there will be a boardwalk to the elevators. To finance them, a ride in the elevator will cost NIS 5, by buying tickets at the entrance to the elevators. The cost will be much lower than a cable car, Carmelit or roads. The elevators will be able to be routinely used by travelers and residents to reach the bathing beaches or for a trip between the neighborhoods without the need for a car or bus to go up between the Carmel and the coastal neighborhoods. A connection by elevator will also give a tremendous advantage in evacuating hundreds of residents while bypassing the need for vehicles: evacuation on foot to the elevators and from them directly to the coastal neighborhoods, while a parking lot will be built next to each elevator opening on Huadiot Road that will allow the arrival of evacuation buses to centers such as the stadium or the Congress Center.
Is the density of the roads what bothers them? LOL
Those who have been to Haifa know what I am talking about
Dear Eyal, I have no intention of harming the wadis - the wadis are not intended for construction in any case - at least in the excellent plans I prepared. I am not misleading and it is a shame that you use this term in relation to me without knowing the data and the facts.
The establishment of the new neighborhoods (realization of construction on lands that were illegally frozen for construction for decades) - those lands that were purchased with full money when they were intended for residential construction in approved plans - excellent - from the British Mandate period - similar to all residential construction in the old and prestigious areas of the Carmel Ridge in Haifa - is the obligation of reality.
It may be that in your heart or in the hearts of others there is a desire to prevent the realization of the construction and the realization of the rights - but the prevention of the realization causes very heavy financial damage - and the additional damage of denying a roof over a roof from thousands of landowners - or from their grandchildren (without government subsidies worth billions of NIS). If anyone Requesting to prevent the construction from being carried out, he is invited to pay the compensation to the land owners. Of course, I do not know your financial situation, nor do I seek to find out, but I do not believe that you will be willing to pay billions of NIS as compensation to the affected land owners.
In any case - when you harm a person - his property and his fundamental rights - there is a price for it - in our case a very heavy price given the enormous scope of the harm to thousands of people.
I suggest that before you put your hand to the keyboard it is necessary to think and understand who you are hurting and how much you are hurting - therefore, telling stories in articles on the Hai Pa website - in relation to an important article - is not some topic for those who hurt without understanding and knowing what they are talking about.
Dear Eyal, you have important opinions, but it is appropriate that you study things well, before clicking unnecessarily and harmfully on the keyboard of the computer or the smartphone.
'Only public transportation in the estate' - there is a bit of confusion in your response - there is no public transportation in the estate - without regulating additional descents from the Carmel ridge axis - this is exactly the excellent planning I submitted - in the excellent planning I submitted there is no destruction of the wadis - just the opposite - there is regulation of access to the wadis via walking paths - Something that does not exist today - another confusion concerns your claim that there is no limit to the increase in the number of apartments in the evacuation of buildings in the coastal neighborhoods - this is a mistake that was defined by the mayor Ms. Kalish as dense projects - and she correctly used the definition of this density as 'slams' - I do not know your position regarding To the residents of these neighborhoods and to the future residents who will supposedly live in the slums - I suggest that you just for a moment see yourself living in the slums - such - the fruit of the shameful planning product of the Haifa municipality - there are many examples of this from abroad - where the high-rises are blown up after years - the result of the default The severity of overcrowding and the construction of high-rises - you should be interested - see for example the report by architects Amir Man and Ami Shanar - appears on the Internet - in connection with the City Council discussion of September 10.9.2019, XNUMX in connection with the plan for the height of the buildings in Haifa; You will be able to watch movies - for example, the explosion of the houses in the UK - according to which you propose to destroy the city of Haifa - completely contrary to the opinion of Mayor Kalish - while enriching them by pulling the strings that intend to get rich from the terrible overcrowding failure - in combination with the cemetery - inside the Neve David neighborhood - instead of existing apartment buildings - I would suggest that you check the data before recklessly clicking on the keyboard that sends unsubstantiated responses to this important article in Hai Fe. Studying the details and delving into them is the basis for establishing a true and well-founded position and not just throwing out untrue and pointless comments that are all about serving the interests of a few greedy people who only see the money and not what's around them.
Ilan Habibi, you are the deceiver. "There is no public transportation in the estate - without arranging additional descents from the Carmel Ridge axis"
As they wrote to you here, go back and read, it is possible to quickly arrange 4 drops for public transport only (public and emergency transport routes) in Kabir, Ahuza, Dania and Ramat Begin neighborhoods without building any additional neighborhood.
What you are trying to claim is that under the guise of "concern for the ridge" the last Uadiids for the completely unnecessary horrible neighborhoods should be destroyed because more access roads will pass through them. If there's anything we've learned from the huge traffic jams on the sea route every morning and afternoon, that every drop like this doesn't improve the situation but worsens it. It's false magic.
What is needed is to connect the 4 connections that were written to you with the National Transportation Safety Board to only a bus that will pass through them. This will give a real and healthy priority in Haifa to public transportation. The real problem, of course, is that the Haifa Municipality, the City Engineer and the Traffic Department do not have the balls to make such a plan, which is what Huldai is doing in Tel Aviv - Closes streets to car parks and turns them into a bus-only expressway. I wish we had a mayor come with balls and knowledge in promoting real mobility in a city like Haifa and inherit it in the NTAs at the expense of lines of unnecessary and destructive parked vehicles.
'Only public transport in the estate' you are wrong and misleading - even if you did not intend to mislead. The excellent plans that I prepared for a 'healthy neighborhood' are based on very accessible roads with a maximum longitudinal gradient of 6% in complete contrast to the delusional planning of the Haifa Municipality based on a longitudinal gradient of 12% - which is against the law and the guidelines of the Ministry of Transportation and the Ministry of Housing - which guide and require the creation of accessible roads - In the high-quality planning I submitted, there is excellent shading for the roads, so that it encourages walking - instead of neighborhoods planned by the Haifa municipality that depend on the use of private vehicles due to the difficult slopes - which even prevent, in some cases, from reaching bus stops due to the catastrophic slope. In addition, the plans I prepared create approximately 70 km of excellent bike paths, with a moderate gradient - a maximum longitudinal gradient of 6% - thereby further reducing the use of private vehicles and public transportation. In addition, of course, in my planning there is accessible and convenient public transportation for the general public, including the disabled In other words - the plan I prepared, and some of its advantages are summarized in the responses to this article, offers the right solutions - the Haifa Municipality offers chaos, mess, anarchy, a gross planning failure - and above all - a danger to human life and animals - and fatal damage to the environment. It is worth checking before reacting in a way Wrong, too bad.
If they wanted to solve the transportation problems in Haifa and the imprisoned neighborhoods, they should have upheld the judgment and decision on contempt of court against the Haifa Municipality in the case AT 2634-11-15 Bornstein v. Haifa Municipality (December 5.12.2016, 2017) and the decision of the District Committee from December 1125 (as Also the ruling in TA 04/2023 Bornstein v. Haifa Municipality (April 70) - in the matter of the excellent planning I prepared in connection with the 'Tel Aharon and Lincoln Branch Plan - a healthy neighborhood'; as well as proper handling of the objection I submitted to the plan Ramat Goral which includes the excellent planning - 'Ramat Goral Plan - Healthy Neighborhood' which includes as appendices - 'Tuscany Plan - Healthy Neighborhood', 'Ramat Eshkol B Plan - Healthy Neighborhood' and 'Morod Golda Plan - Healthy Neighborhood' - excellent plans which include transportation solutions that serve the entire city, including, among other things, comfortable and accessible roads, with a very moderate slope, for walking, as well as - about XNUMX km of bicycle paths with a moderate slope - in the Carmel Ridge, and no less important is the arrangement of roads connecting the axis of the Carmel Ridge and the plain Beach.
As we know, the bureaucratic state - refused to do what was required, was allegedly busy with corruptions and combinations - and everything is stuck. They did not handle and are not handling the excellent planning that I submitted.
The only thing they are asking for is to get their hands on billions of NIS budgets of the Ministry of Finance - what is called matron and other things in between and transportation solutions and saving human lives - the road is still far, far away.
The destruction of the last green valleys in West Haifa as a "healthy city plan" is obvious. Neighborhoods without public transportation, all private vehicles as "healthy neighborhoods". Fatty to say the least.
A sane city cancels all these "development" plans (destruction in the guise of development) and concentrates on 100% urban renewal in the neighborhoods that exist on the coastal plain (they also do not have a problem of increasing rights and there is no problem of eviction or are not "imprisoned" in the Carmel Ridge and produces an exchange of rights and mobility of rights From Ramat Goral (the destruction of the wonderful Goat Hill, a truly healthy green lung) and gives alternative rights in the expansion of Naot Peres / the southern entrances near the Carmel Castle.
All these future neighborhoods will be sick neighborhoods - obesity based on 2 vehicles per family, pollution when the entire Carmel ridge will pass through them, and the destruction of the environment and the green wadis that make Carmel so desirable.
The patent of creating plans for residential neighborhoods (in which residential construction was frozen on May 16.5.1968, XNUMX) without regulating adequate transportation solutions - creating closed neighborhoods and worsening the situation of closed neighborhoods in the city of Haifa (danger to the lives of a very large public of residents) - is a brainchild of Haifa municipality employees, The local committee and the district committee - so only a few, those who knew how to be nice enough to the officials, so it is suspected, will be able to get building permits after many years of a construction freeze - while most of the land owners will not be able to build according to the scandal known as the plans that the Haifa Municipality and its partners produce, It seems that their great-grandchildren will not be able to build either.
This patent is actually applied in the work of the authorities - also in the 'Morod Golda' neighborhood in addition to Ramat Goral and Tel Aharon - Lincoln - and thus the traffic jams in the city of Haifa are increasing - and the danger during an emergency to the lives of thousands of residents is heartbreaking and may occur due to the disintegration of the government in Israel. As mentioned, Yona Yahav and Mrs. Kalish failed to deal with the corruption and the poor functioning of the planning in Haifa - those pulling the strings won - the residents will pay the price.
Another classic example of preventing the realization of escape routes to create a solution for the imprisoned neighborhoods is the 'Ramat Gural' plan (allegedly published to be effective in December 2021). The suspicion of conflicts of interest in this plan is overwhelming (the state attorney's office pledged in court that the district committee employee (who also serves as a member of the district committee in Shamsha as an acting deputy) who was responsible for years in the district committee for the plan - the suspicion is related to the view from her parents' apartment - will no longer be able to handle the plan; the traffic consultant / Transportation in the District Committee apologized for the conflict of interest in its handling of the plan as part of the District Committee's decision of 16.11.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX - the conflict of interest stems from her position and actions in connection with the plan during her time working at the Haifa Municipality - and in the hearing hearing of the objections before the investigator on behalf of the District Committee; there are suspicions of a conflict of interest of a former senior employee at the municipality Haifa due to the view from her apartment - this matter did not end in the legal process and the municipality of Haifa did not deal with the matter - the senior employee retired due to retirement age and the suspicions were not actually clarified; there are other suspicions of favoring landowners over other landowners for various reasons - the case stood out in this regard The seriousness of sweeping preference and suspicion of giving excessive compensation in the program to a person (land owner in the program) who served as a decisive appraiser - among other things between the Haifa local committee and citizens) and allegedly acted to fill his stomach with rights that he does not deserve at all so that his decisions as a decisive appraiser would conform to the will of the grantors of the non-kosher rights.
The same irresponsible team on behalf of the Haifa municipality created the same planning monster that determines the danger of the closed neighborhoods. The prominent representatives in the district committee explicitly clarified that the Ramat Goral plan will not allow a transportation solution to the west - that is, the trapped neighborhood will not find a solution in light of the scandalous planning that eliminates the reasonable possibility of creating transportation accessibility to the coastal plain. How did they 'succeed' in producing this, by way of planning that prevents the possibility of installing the transportation solution included in this matter in the overall outline plan for Haifa - 2000 (published to be valid in 2019) - that is, they are producing a plan for 2,040 apartments, without a minimal transportation solution . Those 30% of the apartments that will be able to be built - due to the transportation failure, it is suspected, are mainly those land owners - those who will be skilled enough to get along with the municipality / local committee employees - so that they will receive building permits - and the majority will not be able to build, even their great-grandchildren, it seems , they won't be able to build, how do you get along with the municipality employees and promote getting building permits? You can be nice enough with the officials and you can also hire, for a lot of money, a machinist who knows how to be nice to those who need it.
The most important thing in the whole matter is to prevent a transportation solution - so that there will be a filter that allows only the elite among the elite to get a building permit - and due to the lack of access roads, in an emergency - who will die - who cares?
The problem of the gated neighborhoods is a life-threatening situation - this is the scandalous behavior of the Haifa Municipality, the Haifa Local Planning and Construction Committee and the district committee - Haifa District - behavior that is not based on planning considerations and factual considerations. The base, according to the suspicion, is about combinations that are woven to benefit the interests of various parties, mainly related to municipal employees, employees / members of the planning committees - of course the great majority of these employees are complacent, but, that handful, some of them are the ones pulling the strings (those who Yahav and Ms. Kalish could not resist their actions) - produce the combines that are in terms of a real and actual danger to life and this, allegedly, in connection with the money and pleasure benefits related to this matter. In other words, there is a strong suspicion that human lives are being endangered due to corrupt and irrelevant considerations.
These days, they are actually about to publish the Tel Mana 10 plan - the plan actually cancels one of the most important roads in our case - Tadal Street - a road that was approved in the 1 Hef/1941d plan - a life-saving road that creates a transportation connection to Harofeh Street (and its annexes: St. Lincoln and the streets in the Lachish neighborhood) to the Moriah axis via Mapo Street. Another connection through the Tel Aharon neighborhood - Lincoln is supposed to create an access road to the coastal plain, near the entrance to the Carmel tunnels (something that the municipal officials are opposed to, allegedly due to combines and corruption, all of which is a flow A lot of money in their pockets - and it will be mentioned, in the Tel Aharon plan - Lincoln has already poured about 50 million NIS into 'planning' under the auspices of the junta and it is still impossible to build anything) - except to load more traffic on the congested Freud Road. There is no planning consideration or substantive consideration in canceling Tadal Street, but rather, as suspected, corrupt interests that will cost the local committee and the Haifa municipality hundreds of millions of NIS in compensation to the land owners in Tel Aharon - Lincoln; The actual cancellation of Tadal Street creates a great economic lever for the junta, as is suspected.
Tadal Street is one of the most important streets in the creation of a road connecting the Moriah axis to the coastal plain and due to its great advantages and great importance - the junta has been preventing its construction for many years.
The junta is right. Instead of building more roads that will be blocked, the public should be transferred to public transportation
This is the action that will save the most lives and also the city of Haifa.
Another road from Mount Carmel to road 4, could allow normal public transportation in one of the closed neighborhoods, Dania or Ahuza for example, where there is one roundabout line that goes nowhere. A connection to Route 4 could bring many bus lines and allow people to get rid of their private cars
I agree with you 100%, that's what I wrote. Making the connection to the National Road to be used by public transportation vehicles only (bus, Egged Tic-Tac, ambulances, firefighting, police, emergency evacuation vehicles) will reduce the resistance of the residents of Dania and other neighborhoods to connect them directly to the coastal neighborhoods. This will make it possible to give up the private car and go down quickly and save time and fuel directly to the Carmel beach switchboard.
I am unable to understand why such a plan is not implemented in the 4 simple and cheap descents that can be connected at the ends of 4 neighborhoods (Daniya, Ahuza, Ramat Begin and Kabirim) in order to also allow security for the residents in an emergency to arrange the arrival of security and firefighting forces and evacuation and also in routine a substantial improvement of Koi The bus from the ridge to the bathing beaches of Dado and Carmel Beach, the stadium, Matam, the central station of Carmel Beach, the coastal neighborhoods, and much more.
It's ridiculous to me that they don't promote these public transportation systems, the cost of performance is very low, and they will substantially improve public transportation in the city. As soon as the public transportation systems reduce the number of private vehicles that people take to the beach, to the train, etc. from those neighborhoods, we will also get a win-win by sea and Freud will be less congested.
For example, if a bus will go up quickly connecting Freud to Eider directly to the university, I am sure that many will give up arriving by private car. And if a large number of people get off at the Carmel Beach train within 10 minutes via Esther HaMalka and Noah David, I am convinced that at that moment 200-300 vehicles will give up the daily round trip by car to the train and will prefer to take a fast bus like this round trip.
We must promote this solution - yes, connect more roads, not for the private car, only for public and emergency transportation.
Dania is the worst
So someone explain to me once and for all what property tax is,
And please don't tell me that property taxes only go to parades of boys who have decided they are girls and vice versa.
I will rewrite my response to Yaron:
A. Yes, it is possible to quickly make 4 additional connections to existing roads
B. These connections should be used routinely and in emergencies only by public transportation: buses, fire trucks, ambulances, Eged Tic-Tac and public evacuation vehicles (evacuation buses) in both routine and emergency
These 4 "simple" connections are:
1. The section of the dirt road blocked at the Dania Gate - Carmel Castle
2. Soroka road section / Bnei Brit Levinschel / Freud,
3. Connecting Idar to Freud, known as the "Mishan Idar road bypassing Horeb"
4. Kabbir, Mor Street, David, Esther Hamalka Street.
All of these can be done quickly and designate these roads only for public transport, neither going down nor going up for private vehicles. In order to improve the bus and minibus lines to the train stations (for example, offer a minibus line from the Carmel Coast Railway directly to Kabvir and Carmelia through this intersection, without it being used as a 'promenade' for private vehicles). In my opinion, these connections should be used not for the private vehicle, but only to improve public transportation In this way, the opposition of the neighborhoods to connecting them will be removed, and the effect on the neighborhoods will be such that the private car will be inferior to arriving by public transportation.
It is only right to open infrastructure for everyone and not for a certain type of vehicle
What do you mean opposers? On what basis? There is a security issue here!
Michal, Rav Kalish says that the problem of the closed neighborhoods "keeps sleep from her eyes", but the truth is that our problem is a mayor who already at the beginning of her term created the cry for this generation when she went to Israel Katz, the Minister of Transportation at the time and claimed that she opposes the ridge matron and opposes the cable car , without checking at all what it was about. Katz, who was also furious at her statements against his office and against projects agreed upon between him and the Haifa Municipality by Yona Yahav, immediately canceled the budgets amounting to NIS 1.6 billion that had already been approved for implementation through Yaffe-Nof Co. (which the Tzuklish duo also managed to destroy.) Only after a few days did it become clear to Klish that she actually gave up not only a huge budget in favor of transportation in the Carmel Ridge, but that all the imprisoned neighborhoods lost rare government funding that was already supposed to begin to materialize that year (2019) and thus we lost because of Klish as well From a transportation point of view, as well as from a safety point of view, and the risk during fires for thousands of Haifa residents remains high because of this stupid omission by Klish. Since then, we have discovered time and again how Klish continues to act from her gut and not from her head, and only months and years after she made stupid decisions does she discover what colossal mistakes she made....so what separates This change from our eyes is Ms. Kalish, as long as you didn't understand what a mistake it was that many voted for you in the previous elections ☹️
The municipality of Haifa covers itself with shoddy and unprofessional superficial documents of the city's transportation and traffic department, which claims that everything is normal and everything is fine in terms of traffic congestion on the Carmel Ridge. All this without conducting any transport survey as required by law. Contempt of municipal declarations!
The municipality completely ignores the State Comptroller's report published after the great fire in Carmel, which claims that during the fire there was extreme traffic congestion on the main roads, which prevented access by fire and rescue vehicles to the fire centers, and also prevented the evacuation of the residents after they received an order to evacuate the houses in entire streets. Report The 2017 reviewer includes an unequivocal requirement to add access roads to closed neighborhoods. Nothing was done, except for a massive increase in buildings and density of residents. The mayor remembered only now and very late to hold discussions on the issue!? She will continue these idle discussions even after she stops serving as mayor.
The mayor is an expert in only one thing - talk and talk and talk again!! Impressive expertise in virtual drawing of programs on the air! PhD in urban architecture!? Zero performance capacity!
The act of urban destruction in the Carmel Ridge will be remembered for "Zakhota" forever.
She has a year and a half at her disposal with further destruction of the city and it's a shame that it is so.
A resounding personal failure, not only on the subject of the "Urban Pig", but in all areas of the city on its extensive aspects.
Haifa is a large city in the area and the Carmel is steeped in vegetation. The road system in the city is old and dilapidated and some roads are dangerous to drive on, not to mention closed neighborhoods, the Dania neighborhood has one entry and exit road, even in an accident the road is blocked, then in a fire there is an immediate danger to thousands of households who will not be able to escape due to an influx of rescue forces. will be able to enter due to the blocking of the road, I call on all the decision makers enough with the inaction, we are in the summer and the heat in the country with easterly winds is a danger to life, these are not negligible things that require us to act quickly, the bureaucracy and ego wars will not benefit anyone and not for the benefit of the city and its residents,
We must address the issue of transportation, adding ways to rescue residents in case of emergency, to lose existing roads that are dilapidated and dangerous for travel, throughout the city
I wash forests, water the trees, collect the prunings, quench
them in early winds, hugging the soft bark, expecting them to grow and be evergreen, so that I can see them next spring.
(Dedicated to the fire fighters, the firemen and rescue workers, and the employees of the National Fund for Israel, who wash forests in contrast to the haters of Israel who burn the forests.
Ramat Vizhnitz is also a closed neighborhood, but who cares?
Vizhnitz is locked up because the mentally challenged residents of the neighborhood want that to be the case.
How many more years will pass until the closed neighborhoods in Haifa, such as the Dania neighborhood, will have another road in the direction of Route 4??
We must settle this issue. Good night
Kalish, you work on everyone with your eyes. Stop confusing your brain and thinking that the public is stupid. I determine that you stopped the budget for the implementation of buffer zones!!! I state that in most of your stupidity, your lack of experience and your unwillingness to listen, you stopped the funding of the Carmel Ridge Matron and the result was that the Ministry of Transportation stopped the funding of the descents from the ridge in order to solve the problem of the imprisoned neighborhoods (this was the condition of the Ministry of Transportation). So it's enough to run away from responsibility and redden the whole world and its religion and enough to tell stories. You are the mayor of Kasholon and everything that happens in the city in the last 3 years is under your authority and responsibility
The only ones waiting for roads are those who own lots on the sides of the road
When roads are paved, land will be expropriated from the lots for the benefit of road construction. Sometimes there will be a small plot of land that will not be possible to build on.
Is it better to continue harming the owners of the lands that were frozen for illegal residential construction, while putting thousands of residents at risk from fires and other hazards?
What happened, is it some kind of national sport to hurt the owners of the frozen lands in such a severe way, and for that you are perhaps willing to risk human life in an emergency and get stuck in endless traffic jams on a regular basis?
If she was one of the people pulling the strings, this can still be understood - actions to extort huge sums from the owners of the plots - in exchange for the dissolution of the construction - as is suspected - then there is a financial purpose - greed in the vernacular - but just to prevent the construction?
The main thing is that all the managers with a belly full of fat sit in the office in the air conditioner scratching their balls and at the end of the month they get a fat salary next time all of Haifa will burn to the ground
What interests you, Michal, is not the "incarcerated" neighborhoods, but the use of every possible excuse to demand and press for the demolition of more roads. That's how you bring up from time to time whining from teachers who don't have parking near the schools, or residents who, alas, only have one parking space near the apartment and are forced to park the other vehicle further from the house.
For some time now I have been following the mask of pressures for Asphaltiada and the control of the private car and its favor over everything else in Haifa, completely opposite to any action for the quality of life of the world's leading cities, which push the feet of the private car and in its place encourage walking, cycling and public transport.
Indeed, in order to have an efficient evacuation of the neighborhoods, it is not necessary to connect them to Route 4. The call to evacuate during the great fire created a huge traffic jam that prevented fire trucks from the center of the country from going up the Freud route. The "confined" neighborhoods, meaning that they have access to the axis of the ridge, do not need more and more highways that will destroy the few valleys that are still left around them. They need emergency routes - public transportation routes, which in times of emergency will only be used by the fire engines and buses or trucks that arrive for the mass and orderly evacuation of residents. There is no need for a buffer, there is a need to eliminate parking lots along entrances to neighborhoods, parking lots that create traffic jams at all intersections today - and instead of a parking lane, to make it an emergency lane for buses and fire and rescue vehicles such as ambulances and police that will be used alongside the buses.
I hope that the roads that have already been approved for paving from Kabirim, connecting Soroka to Freud - will only be used for getting off / getting off buses, taxis and emergency vehicles. We must say goodbye to the culture of the private vehicle that is harmful in traffic jams that is also created for emergency evacuation.
This is partially true. In the investigation into the fire that I submitted to the municipality, the fire brigade and the police, I also proposed a solution of evacuating students from schools and elderly people from nursing homes with the help of Egged. Everyone welcomed the idea and promised to implement it, in practice it was never practiced. Mainly for the shuttles towards the train station on the Carmel Beach or towards the metro station in the west of the city and thus there will be no need to leave the house in private vehicles. Nowadays everyone leaves the neighborhoods starting with the car to the Ridge Road and from there to the Carmel Beach Tunat and then looking for parking there which is hard to find... completely unnecessary... but Klish didn't understand at all It…
Shalom Yaron, regarding the matter of going down to the train station, see the solution I proposed as part of the tunnel, to build a train station at the bottom of Wadi HaGivori that will serve all the neighborhoods - Carmel, Nosh, Nesher and eliminate the need to get to the Hoof HaCarmel train by car.
There are currently 3 different ways to get to the train stations: from the university and Dania by cable car to the Gulf Central, in Carmelit to the Haifa Central train (it's a shame it wasn't moved in front of the Kiryat Havalim and connected to it by a bridge as in the original plan of the Kiryat Havalim) and by ordering an 'Egged Bag-Tak'. All this in addition to the bus lines that go down through the tunnels to the Carmel Beach station and the Hafaretz central station.
The indulgence of the residents of Carmel not to use the multitude of solutions is a well-known and well-known matter. On the contrary, it seems that the more they add public transportation in Carmel, the more jeeps they will insist on buying, bigger and bigger (which are a danger in themselves for other vehicles to see the roads).
It should be noted that there are 4 "simple" connections of neighborhoods to the Huadiot Road axes, and here none of them really connect to a descent or an ascent: the section of the dirt road blocked at the Dania Gate - Tirat HaCarmel, the section of Soroka Road / Bnei-Brit to Winschel / Freud, Naider For Freud known as the 'Mishan Idar Bypassing Horeb Road' and the fourth as Bir-Esther the Queen. All of these can be done quickly and designate these roads only for public transport, neither going down nor going up for private vehicles. In order to improve the bus and minibus lines to the train stations (for example, offer a minibus line from the Carmel Coast Railway directly to Kabvir and Carmelia through this intersection, without it being used as a 'promenade' for private vehicles). In my opinion, these connections should be used not for the private vehicle, but only to improve public transportation In this way, the neighborhoods' resistance to connecting them will be removed, and the effect on the neighborhoods will be such that the private vehicle will be inferior to public transportation.
We must bring the spoiled public in Carmel to the point where they would prefer to take a bus every trip. If this means canceling lines of parking at the entrance to every neighborhood in the Ridge in favor of a neighborhood minibus that will be the only vehicle that will not get stuck in traffic jams leaving the neighborhood, then this is exactly what needs to be done in order to prioritize absolutely
A teacher at the Herzl school in Carmelia who lives in Bordia, who knows that it will take her a minute to get on the minibus at the Zafaririm Street intersection to Moriah and then a minute to get off at the Shimson Lordia interstate, or it will take her 10 minutes by car in traffic to Moriah and then 10 minutes in traffic in Samson Lordia - then she will come by bus and leave her car At home. And that is exactly what should be strived for in all of Haifa
Only turning to Bihemesh will settle this sad issue.
The minister of transportation, mainly rants on Tik Tok and everyone else does nothing.