Residents on Kiryat Sefer Street and D'Jizraeli Street in Haifa are outraged that every morning there is a traffic jam at the entrance to Kiryat Sefer and they have to stand and wait for long minutes to continue their journey.
"It's amazing every time"
"It's simply unbelievable," says one of the residents, "I live on Disraeli Street, close to Horev. When I come back from a run at the sea, I find myself standing in traffic every morning, when I turn right at Sefer Square to the beginning of my street (Kiryat Sefer Street becomes to D'Izraeli Street), it amazes me every time. Parents arrive with the car, park it in the middle of the road and go to open the door for the children. It doesn't matter to them how many cars are behind them, how many people are waiting, the main thing is that their child will be comfortable getting out of the car and entering the house The book. Some of my grandchildren study in elementary schools and the school finds a way to reduce the harm to drivers on the street, it's a shame they don't do it here too."
The whole street is a traffic jam
"When I was a child, I myself was in a youth movement," says Sara, in her 70s, who lives on D'Israeli Street. "I wasn't in the Scouts, but I still feel uncomfortable complaining about them. But it just doesn't make sense that on Saturdays there is regularly a traffic jam on our street, because the Carmel tribe of the Scouts is in Reali Azoza," she says.
"On Saturdays there is scouting activity and the whole street is clogged with vehicles of the parents who bring the children and then pick them up. What's annoying is that it seems that all the classes start the activities at the same time and finish at the same time and then the whole street becomes one big traffic jam. It's a shame that each class doesn't start at a different time, Then maybe the parents' vehicles weren't so significant and there wouldn't have been such a traffic jam. It's annoying, I know that on Tuesdays and Saturdays there are times when it's better for me not to go home because my whole street is one big traffic jam."
A lot of patience is required
A few hundred meters away, every morning a similar traffic jam. Those who arrive at the beginning of Horev Street after 7:30, need a lot of patience and long-suffering. At the beginning of Horev Street there are several municipal gardens. The parents who bring the children to the kindergartens, need to find parking in order to get the children into the kindergartens. Of course, there are almost no free parking spaces.
Some parents park at the bus stop, then a bus that arrives and sees a blocked stop stops in the right lane and jams the traffic. Some parents stop the car in the right lane and quickly go to the kindergarten - again a serious traffic delay. The combination between the parents who take the children to the municipal kindergartens and the parents who drive the children to the Ahozah elementary school (Zikron Yosef on Sderot Sinai) and also just residents who want to get to their place of work, is very problematic. Even on Friday, the day when most residents do not work, it is very difficult to find parking on Horev Street and the traffic moves lazily.
The Ministry of Transportation wanted to make a matron from the university to Carmel French. It is hard to imagine what would have happened in the estate during the works. If this were to be implemented, one of the lanes would become a lane intended only for matrons, which would create greater pressure on the only lane left for vehicle traffic. In the end, the plan did not come to fruition.
Every morning is a struggle
"I, thank God, am done with kindergartens," says Samdar, who lives in Ramat Eshkol and brings her son to the Zikrhon Yosef school. "Every morning it's a struggle to get out of the house as quickly as possible so as not to get stuck in traffic on Freud and after that on Horev Street. I understand these parents very much. When the children are small, it takes time to get them to kindergarten, and we have to find an arranged parking lot near the kindergarten, it's very complex. My dealings are also It's not easy. It's impossible to describe what goes on on Horev Street at 7:40 and then, no less bad, on Sderot Sinai. We parents enter the street to leave the boy or girl and after that we're all stuck in a traffic jam on the street for long, precious minutes before a day of work. Until I I arrive at Sefer Square and the traffic clears, my soul comes out, and my feeling is that no one really cares."
The municipality's response:
Most of the educational institutions in Haifa, as in all major cities in Israel and the world, were established decades ago without prior planning for today's traffic volume and without parking infrastructure or arrangements for picking up and dropping off passengers. The Haifa Municipality is examining every possible solution and trying different measures in order to ease the traffic and parking loads near the schools and kindergartens. For example, the municipality is working wherever it is possible to prepare designated parking spaces for picking up and dropping off students near educational institutions and "arms and rides" arrangements for elementary school students and kindergarten children. In addition, the municipality is working with the Ministry of Transportation and Aged in order to increase travel routes to and from the schools, with the aim of optimizing public transportation as much as possible and encouraging the use of public transportation over reaching the schools with private vehicles, as well as encouraging students to reach the schools on foot.
The Kiryat Sefer tower approved by the municipality will be erected despite the warnings of the residents about the huge traffic jams every day. The aforementioned will significantly increase the loads during the construction period and afterwards. The municipality really doesn't care. What is important is the property tax money and maybe pleasing the poor developer. How long will the contempt for the residents of the ridge continue?
All of Haifa is one big traffic jam including the exit from Kabbir, and especially between 0700 and 0800. I understood that there are smart traffic lights where the traffic volume sensors. Maybe the municipality should equip them.
There is of course the possibility that the people controlling the traffic lights will do their duty and change the phase of the traffic lights in the morning according to the volume of traffic, and then in the afternoon. They are not interested in doing so. The salary flows anyway. They prefer to work by the book and intervene only in cases of traffic accidents. sad. extremely sad
If it's already congested, describe the sea road from the new square to the center of Carmel every day takes an hour to an hour and 20 minutes
On the roads to the Carmel neighborhoods, 20,000 vehicles were added within 10 years, why on the sea road there will be no traffic jams and they will go and grow.
Did you want TMA 38? So you got it
Why doesn't anyone mention the noise levels on Disraeli Street? Would the people who bring their children to schools and kindergartens in cars, and honk non-stop at all hours of the day, want them to honk under their house as well? Why doesn't the municipality bother to take care of these noise nuisances? Why is the municipality not dealing with the tremendous noise produced by the Reali school on Disraeli Street, with the ringing of a bell that can also be heard on the other side of the mountain, and with music that is played with tremendous power? Why does anyone think this is normal?
Because of Tama, 38 Rehov D'Israeli and Kiryat Sefer Sheketim added 200 new apartments at once. Imagine another 300-400 vehicles trying to get in and out of those streets in addition to the hundreds of existing vehicles. Now multiply that by Manor, Moriah, Chambor and Carmelia. These are the most sought-after neighborhoods in Haifa, which is why hundreds of apartments have been added to each of them in TMA 38 and hundreds more are under construction right now.
10,000 vehicles have been added to the already narrow and already congested roads in Carmel in the last decade. The schools were overcrowded, not only on the roads. The schools turned offices into classrooms. Turn barracks into classrooms. Build more classroom floors above classrooms. In schools like in Herzl, they built additional wings, due to the increase in density due to Tama 38. At the same time, the municipality stole more and more parking spaces and gave them as entrances and exits from parking lots. You know the buildings that used to have no parking at all and parked along the sidewalk, and they had a parking lot and now exiting and entering the parking lot takes away 2-3 parking spaces on the street? Again, multiply that by a few hundred.
The engineer of the city of Haifa, destroyed and sabotaged all the Carmel neighborhoods in a truly criminal way. The quality of life today in Carmel is bad, and they want to continue adding another Tama 38, another Pinoy Binui, another tower here, another 7 floors instead of 3 there. What did you think would happen?
Residents of the Carmel neighborhoods.
Those who complain after having Tama 38... and those who submit applications for Tama 38, and those who moved into Tama 38 as new tenants.
What did you think would happen?
Did you think that by the miracle of Hanukkah, every street would double the number of lanes in it?
Did you think that by the miracle of Hanukkah, all your neighbors won't have two cars, just you?
Did you think that by the miracle of Hanukkah, when the entire street has added hundreds of vehicles like your building, there will not be huge traffic jams in the neighborhoods and roads?
Did you think that a Hanukkah miracle, more roads, more Carmel tunnels, another connection to Freud and another descent from here to there would solve the problems?
The municipality's answer is hallucination in its embodiment.
More solutions to "facilitate" the continued arrival by private vehicle of teachers and students. Apparently there is no limit to trolling.
I was happy to read about these traffic jams and wish for many more traffic jams, not fifteen minutes but a whole hour for all the car owners who refuse to use public transportation and contribute themselves to the dismal situation in the neighborhoods.
With a blessing - a happy Hanukkah traffic jam. And that soon these days the municipality will come to its senses and work to establish a Carmelit metro line along the crowded Carmel Ridge,
while closing the campuses and schools for teacher and faculty parking and canceling student tags and parking near educational institutions. Master soon.
It's nothing. Wait for them to build the tower. Now is the time for the whole ridge to unite and fight for high-rises
It's been like this for years, 40 years this story and nothing has changed, it's not from today.
In front of the Reali in Kiryat Safar there is enough space for an independent parking bay parallel to the street, just like in Beit Biram. We need to pressure the school management and the municipality to implement it.
The most frustrating traffic is going up to Hadar from Hagafen Street to Herzliya Street. It's a school or kindergarten from the sector and they stop on the 2 routes. To get the kid off. The problem is that the parents agree with the child to take the case away from him. And make a turn of a pose as if the women there are going on stage and doing the fashion turn for the clothes she came in. And if heaven forbid, you will wake them up. Within a minute dozens of men, children and women are coming at you. Even policemen and inspectors are standing. From the fear of being warned or actually giving reports for parking in the middle of the road. This is a traffic violation that is not enforced on this street!
Cops are scared. and inspectors who live near the traffic offenders. what do we do with it ?,,
the best answer; Put cameras at the intersection above the traffic light and then the traffic report with a double fine arrives at the house without the need for policemen and with an income of hundreds of thousands of NIS per month for the municipality. The problem can and can be solved. It's just that the fish stinks from the head Mrs. Klish is a coward!!!
All the avenues of Zionism are a disgrace. A major thoroughfare in the city that is also blocked by parked vehicles that block an entire lane and interfere with vehicles going up, also on the way down to Herzliya St. As mentioned above, people park in the right lane every morning and interfere and do not receive reports...
There is no enforcement in the jungle state. Any other country would have stationed police officers and cameras, anyone who stops the vehicle even for a minute and drops off a passenger in a driving lane - an immediate report.
We have a jungle. Sderot Zion when I travel with guests and they see Wadi Nissens I have to apologize that in Israel there is a separate rule of law for the Jews and the Arab sector and as soon as this is a neighborhood from the Arab sector there are no traffic laws, no sidewalks but park wherever you want and endanger children on the way to school. Traffic signs only a recommendation and wild driving in the streets. I have to apologize that our municipality only enforces the little it does when there are already hundreds of complaints and serious accidents.
Stop spoiling the children
My children walked from Hantaka Street to Carmel School
that was found ran away from me even in the rain and nothing happened to them,
Stop the car at the beginning of Kiryat Safar and walk to the school. You need an inspector who won't let you enter the street
I am a pensioner ready to take the children to school.
It is a shame that the project mentioned in the article did not come to fruition. A good public transport infrastructure such as the light rail in Jerusalem or the subway in Tel Aviv are the solution that is accepted all over the world. It's a shame that in Haifa, Mayor Kalish prevented this solution that was proposed and budgeted for by the Ministry of Transportation.
A matron is a worst solution. Slow, cumbersome and dangerous because of the need to subtract an entire lane.
On the other hand, Carmelit (second metro line) is known to all of us and does not suffer from delays at traffic lights, does not require the closure of an entire lane or two along
All axes and creates absolute certainty when you will arrive at each station.
Only metro in the Carmel ridge. Due to Tama 38 which added 10,000 vehicles, there is no other choice.
The pressure should be the immediate planning of Carmelite 2 and a departure for execution that will be ready by 2030 from the French Carmel to the university.
Urgent in the hall.
Go to the garden on foot. And make a neighborhood garden. What did they do twenty years ago without a car for every child? You destroyed the city!!!
The solution is simple and Haifa Municipality works exactly like this.
Kindergartens that are far from the congested area must be closed (for example at 45 Horev St.) and schools should be placed exactly at the central and congested traffic intersections (for example the planned school in Ramat Goral).
Also through the sea there is an endless traffic jam 24 Sheva, into the center of Carmel.
Intolerable.
I studied at Zichron Yosef some 45 years ago. No one drove me.. I was as a child getting off at the station in what is today Horev Center, and walking for a few minutes, and here I am alive to tell you.
That's right Michal. There are always traffic jams in this area. Thank you Michal Yaron for the correct report. Happy Hanukkah.
When I was a child I would walk to school and today the people who cry about the traffic jams who did not get the children used to walking will suffer to the point of despair
Even with us, the intellectuals block the movement, the main thing for the child will be how to reach it as easily as possible
It used to be safe to walk to school. Today, pedophiles are released by the court and walk freely.
There have always been pedophiles. When I was a child, we were always warned about strangers
Once upon a time, children went to school alone and on foot. Today they need a close driver