Tenants in Habiva Reich claim: whoever approved so many urban renewal projects without looking holistically at the neighborhood - the number of parking spaces, infrastructure and quality of life, destroyed the neighborhood
In the Ramot Ramez neighborhood there was a great opportunity, which was missed. The neighborhood was very neglected, it was mainly inhabited by elderly people and students on rent, due to the proximity to the Technion. Little by little, the understanding took shape that the way to upgrade the neighborhood and make it attractive is through urban renewal projects.
The whole neighborhood is undergoing urban renewal
In Ramot Baramez they decided to bring all types of urban renewal. In one building it was decided to evacuate, condense, build, and in the other buildings the evacuation is the well-known construction. The entire neighborhood was built before 1980, so there was no problem from that direction. The problem came from an unexpected direction. The Haifa municipality did not understand what might happen in the neighborhood, which is all going for urban renewal. Of course, neither the residents who signed an agreement (the residents who lived in Remez before the urban renewal projects) nor those who bought an apartment in one of the projects, did not imagine what was going to happen. Residents cannot be blamed for lack of understanding, we are not professionals, but the professionals can certainly be blamed.
Blame what? Here is the explanation: Let's say there is a neighborhood with 100 houses and one building going to urban renewal. Instead of a 4-story building, there will now be a 7-story building. Will it harm the neighborhood or the residents? No. But imagine a situation where half of the houses one after the other are going to urban renewal, this is where the terrible damage to the residents' quality of life begins.
Living inside a construction site
Let's put aside living on a construction site for over a decade. Let's ignore the incessant traffic of trucks at all hours of the day, the dust, the noise. Let's just look at parking lots and infrastructure. Remez residents talk about how they get home and then start making more and more turns with the car to find parking. In some projects, tenants get one private parking space, but today many families have more than one vehicle. There are also projects without parking lots at all. Think what happened to the number of vehicles in the neighborhood. Before the houses in the neighborhood were 3-4 stories high and the number of apartments was about 10, today there are many high-rise buildings with 4 apartments per floor, and the number of vehicles has doubled and tripled. The number of vehicles has increased greatly, but the amount of parking has not changed.
Finishing a day's work and starting to look for parking...
Over the years, the residents of the neighborhood have turned to the mayor of Yahav and now to Klish Rotem to take lots that are still vacant and turn them into parking lots. All kinds of votes and meetings and talks were held, but an improvement in the parking situation - this is not. When you talk to the residents of Remez, you immediately understand that this is the main problem. Everyone talks about how bad it is to return tired from their place of work at 17:00 and certainly after and then start walking around for another half hour - an hour to find parking. Everyone talks because they came to live in the neighborhood to improve their quality of life, they wanted new apartments and a green environment, and in the end they found themselves suffering.
The neighbors' bedroom - from the balcony
The residents of the neighborhood cannot be blamed. They came to sales meetings and were only shown the building where they were going to live. In practice, the sales offices did not show them the other planned buildings. Around the designated building, most of the sales offices have painted lawns, when in practice the construction in Ramez is very dense. Moreover, there are tenants on the sixth floor of one building, for the sake of the example, who thought they were buying an apartment when the other buildings would be far away from them, because that is what they were shown in the sales office. In practice, when they are sitting on the balcony, a meter away from them is the balcony of a nearby building or even a bedroom.
Leaving the neighborhood
"We are now about to move from the neighborhood," Mirit, in her 40s, who has lived in the neighborhood for 5 years, told Hai Pe reporter, "My husband and I were looking for a nice area to raise our children in. We were debating between several neighborhoods, and there were pros and cons to each neighborhood, and what What we liked about the hint was that the neighborhood really looks like a new neighborhood with all the clearing and construction, and the price was also reasonable. There are schools and gardens near our house, there is greenery all around, in short we liked it. But we were really naive. We heard some complaints about how difficult it is to find Parking, but then we had one car and private parking and hoped for the best.
"A little while after we moved into the apartment, we bought another car, and this is where the problems started. Those who parked in the parking lot went straight home, but those who didn't had to start making rounds in the neighborhood and at some point decide whether to park far away or continue making rounds. Into this you have to include shopping and the children. It's really It sucks to park half a kilometer from home and start walking after a long day of work with shopping in hand. And the same goes for returning in the evening with the kids, when they're tired and just want to get home and you can't find parking."
"No one thought about quality of life"
"What finally broke us," Mirit continues, "is that all our friends from the neighborhood were already tired of contacting the municipality, touring the neighborhood and looking for solutions. So we decided to move and leave this unpleasant experience behind us. The thing that annoys me the most is that if anyone thought about quality The life in the neighborhood, before he gave all the approvals to these TMA's, none of this would have happened, and maybe we would have stayed to live there."
"Takes away the desire to live here"
"I have a double problem," says Lilach, a mother of 3 children from Habiva Reich, "I didn't come here after the urban renewal projects, I lived here before. It was a really magical street. Few tenants, a quiet street, we were very satisfied. The population too It was very pleasant. The street today is neglected and dirty, there is no lighting in the gardens, and no matter how many times we go to the municipality and how many tours we do here - there is still no lighting and it is scary to walk through the gardens home. The most difficult problem, I am tired of talking about it, is the parking problem, it's simple Takes away the desire to live here. If I find parking, I feel like I've won the lottery. After all, the contractors here received funds from the state to improve the infrastructure, but left the street like a construction site. One example is a wall built by the municipality at the end of one of the projects. An ugly wall too And also blocks so many parking lots."
"There is no one to talk to"
"This street is just a dream," Lilach adds, "even when we already have ideas on how to get more parking here, there is no one to talk to. Every time we contact the municipality, we are met with the response that there is no budget or that what we asked for does not belong to the municipality - once an electric company, once Hot and once Bezeq How much power can a person have who works hard, maintains a family and a home, after all this to start these endless appeals to the municipality. It took us 3 years to download a public phone that stood abandoned like this. There is not a time when there are not pigs in the crowds, it just blows. The street is full of excrement And dog urine, and the property tax is high. All the time, the bins here are upside down. Corners that used to be cute corners have turned into a concentration of bins. We asked for blue and white markings for the residents of the neighborhood - they rejected the offer. To expand parking markings - no, to arrange sidewalks - no, nothing, nothing."
The municipality's response will be attached when received.
It's hard to blame the current municipality, it is certain that if they set up a commission of inquiry they will find that many people received favors in the biggest failure in Haifa, literally hundreds of apartments that are built densely without planning and thinking, with a central contractor that takes most of the projects and gives the residents the least in terms of parking, infrastructure, development Environmental and everything is under the auspices of the city engineer and former mayor. Of course, we cannot ignore the new mayor who rarely tries to find solutions, on a dirty and neglected street (unfortunately like in many neighborhoods in Haifa).
There are quite a few ideas that can be tried to make it easier for the residents, both in terms of parking, and an additional access and exit road from the neighborhood, unfortunately we believed that there could be a change in Haifa with a new government, but most of the residents of Haifa think that the new mayor simply failed big time!
Vote for David Etzioni and you will get 10 times worse!!
It's scary what's going on in Haifa... Haifa has always been a green and quiet city. If the years have turned it into a city bursting with buildings that are destroying and destroying and everything is crowded one behind the other, excessive and crowded construction, there is no more privacy. Open the window and see the neighbor across the street as if he were sitting in my living room...delusional. They destroy nature...and destroy houses or a 4-story building, you should build 10 stories instead of preserving the old buildings, they destroy and rebuild. And they renovate, they destroy, there is nothing left of our Haifa... they only destroy and that's only in Israel... abroad in England, schools and places still remain from 80 years ago, of course they cultivate and renovate, keep the order...
By the way - dear Berel Katznelson Street residents, you are next in line
That's how it is when you see only $$$$$$$$ in your eyes, only the profit from a new apartment at any price and at any density the main thing that will be launched.
Berel Katznelson Street is already becoming a very congested slum, luckily for the tenants there at least they made covered parking lots for all the buildings
But there is no way that this street in its existing form will carry another 12 buildings of construction evacuation projects that are planned along its entire length.
As soon as they add another project like the current one of 400 more apartments, another 600-800 vehicles, the whole street will be closed at all hours of the day.
See you have been forewarned.
Berel Katznelson will become Slams worse than Habiba.
"Right after we moved, we bought another car and this is where the problems started." This is where the problems of all the spoiled Carmel residents who refuse to use public transportation, who don't demand public transportation, who think that as soon as they bought another car, more parking should be arranged for them.
The nuisance of overcrowding is not "having nowhere to park" because there will never be enough parking spaces for all the vehicles you buy. Wait for the young children of the neighborhood to grow up and every parent will buy them a car as a gift...
There is nothing like it anywhere in the world. that try to take streets that housed 120 families, put 600 families in them, streets that had 100 vehicles, put 800-1000 vehicles in them. With all the parking multipliers, the parking lot built by the municipality, adding parking spaces to all sides of the street, there is no way it will work, gentlemen.
The density of construction and the failed planning are all the part of the failed city engineer, who has failed in every new neighborhood built here by the way - Mr. Ariel Waterman, who really hasn't moved in Haifa for years. Enforcement doesn't bother him either - see the fatal reports of the State Comptroller. Licensing doesn't bother him either - the engineering director is dismantled and all the mice have already left the sinking ship. And yet, Mrs. Mayor [[the architect who understands something about planning according to her]] continues to give city engineer Waterman a free hand to fail Haifa, to plan bad neighborhoods, to plan housing instead of tall buildings with a view, parking lots and gardens.
That's how we got housing in width and height instead of towers. All the condensed chaos and shantytown in Habiva Reich, which really became a street of slams, could have been planned completely differently, in the form of several towers that would enjoy a spacious park and covered parking lots around them
By the way, for the contractors, adding apartments has become a national sport. An addition to the SBS, an addition to the effort, an addition to the slope, they have many ways to add, to divide apartments and areas into more apartments. And Yona Yahav and the person who chaired the municipal planning committee, Hadva Almog, were happy to have propaganda material "The great renewal has begun." They came to cut Movies and they didn't care which movies they put the existing and new tenants in.
The value of the apartments on the street drops with each additional building that grows. The landscape becomes walls of buildings all around, with a terrible lack of planning, blocking light and air, blocking landscape views. Destruction of a steep slope that ran through the street, turning it into a small and deserted garden surrounded by car parks.
What happened in Habiva Reich should be a national warning sign from the condensing method, from engineers and mayors who do not care about the quality of life of the residents but the contractors, and from the private car culture (3 per family because.. that's how it is) that has gotten out of control.
Chaos and chaos that gives rise to the environment of built slums, which unfortunately for its residents - its bad name has already spread far and wide.
Convincing proof that new apartments at any price is a failed and bad method, which creates other hazards no less serious than a housing crisis or old buildings that need to be replaced. The goal cannot justify such failed measures and such problematic planning.
So much talk about parking and not a word about better public transportation.
This route that brings the Remez neighborhood into a dead end was clear and it is happening in all the neighborhoods of the city that are moving towards fake "urban renewal".
In hint it happened very quickly but very quickly it will happen in all the neighborhoods of the Carmel Ridge where the planning is spot on. The municipality and especially the planning committees (local and district) underestimate the needs of the residents, there is no comprehensive planning, the new 2000 outline plan is ignored, they approve easements and deviations for the most part, we live inside construction sites and overall the quality of life in the city, and especially in neighborhoods that are apparently undergoing renewal Urban, dropped drastically!
Haifa is no longer a beautiful and quiet place for a normal person who wants to live, just live.
It's a shame about all the mess there, let's just remember that Yona Yahav started building there, it's better to run away from there, but who would want to buy a house in all this mess through the back, that's what it's going to be on the way to the sea and every nice place there is in Haifa, it's a shame about the city that I love so much
A populist article. What were they like then or where are there new spacious apartments today at the price paid by the new tenants in Habiva Reich? Check how much the apartments were bought for 5, 8 and 10 years ago and how much they are being sold for today. And let's refer for a moment to the coupon cut by the existing tenants.
So enough whining. There is a parking shortage in 99 percent of the streets in Haifa. In Tel Aviv it is no better.
This is how it is when the infrastructures are not adjusted in advance for the planned future construction, this is also the case in Carmel in all its parts, although less than Neve Shanan, but here too it will reach such dimensions.
And it will also be in Kiryat Eliezer, Kiryat Eliyahu, Kiryat Haim, and other places,
A, B, in every renewal, adapting the infrastructure to the planned future construction.
What's going on today!?!?!, everyone wants to build to make money, they build, they build, and then the residents of the neighborhood pay the price, and why? Because these are the trainings on the services, the tenant's welfare, the engineering administration, the mayor, the head of the planning and construction committee, they forgot the guiding principles for development as it exists and takes place in other places and countries,
Construction is not started, and construction should not be allowed, until there are assessments and adaptation of the infrastructure for future construction.
Daughter of Galim!!! The next flop. Wait wait what awaits you there. The bribes that the contractors gave to the decision makers are crazy amounts. shame shame shame And it's already lost. Everything is happy already. There is no way back. But there is nothing to be done, there is big money, no one resists the temptation. Tama 38 Pinoy Binu work in the eyes.
The person who approved is no longer found and the approval was done wisely. There are houses inside monstrous houses and between them is a one-lane road. Garbage rooms in the depth of the buildings with a large number of carts, 15 in number, instead of lying in the ground, there was over-enthusiasm and the renewal will follow the renewal of old buildings nearby
Draw conclusions as to why it was approved
Whiny tenants.
Some people who didn't buy parking are complaining and making noise as if someone owes them something.
Those who have parking, enjoy and love the street.
The ones who get hired from all the crappy projects are the ones who cut coupons for the lives of the residents, the mayor, the engineering department, the developers, contractors and all the other corrupt people.
We used to live on Habiva Rike St., we moved to the Neot Peres neighborhood, here there are spaces and a park for children, each apartment has two parking spaces, clean air from the sea and proximity to everywhere. Excellent!!!
Well done to you for the article
to the illiterate Zohar Pfizerit,
I learned that you are in favor of a similar demolition at your residence in Internationale, where you also illegally dug under the building and added another illegal room to your apartment.
For the information of the readers!!!
This is exactly what is going to happen with the construction in the center of Horev, a hotel plus a 17-story building, the committee immediately approved without discussion together with the municipality that it is no less corrupt than the previous one. There is a special topography that is being lost with the construction of high-rises everywhere, it has become an ugly city, dirt pigs, potholed sidewalks, the negative migration will not stop
I am a resident of the neighborhood where I was born. My parents bought a nice apartment that was for those who served in the army, it was then called permanent army housing. Everything has been great so far. Visiting the parents in Habiva is a story from Aptera. There is no parking at any hour of the day. Terrible and horrible and the construction that is being done with a hint is very unsuccessful, very improper and very unfriendly neither to the tenants nor to the environment. A catastrophe in its own right.
Please remind me who was the mayor who approved the plans? And who was the mayor who stopped this rampage.
It is very sad to read these articles, I understand from those around me, in the vicinity of the Carmel center, that many couples with children are leaving Haifa for the same reasons you mentioned here. Young couples were supposed to be the next generation in Haifa. In the center of Carmel, there are currently a lot of apartments for sale, and there are no buyers, this did not happen in the past. The painful problem is that in the municipality they don't care. And there is no savior. A better year for us. ????
It's a pity for this nation that has become so closed, everyone is making money on everyone and only the residents don't understand where it's going?!
There are many inaccuracies in the article and it's a shame.
First and foremost, the person responsible for the failure is the department of the planning committee of the city of Haifa, which approves all these projects knowingly.
Second, any contractor who sold you a project with lawn painting or a landscape commitment and it appears in the construction drawings, then the contractor/developer can be sued for selling a misrepresentation and you can get a very decent compensation if you end up canceling the whole deal.
There is so much dust in the neighborhood it's just disgusting you can't clean every day you have sand in the apartment and it never ends
I am always stolen by the stupidity of people in Haifa. Alas, the residents are not to blame.. they are as guilty as possible and it is impossible not to take responsibility for stupid elections. And others cry about parking as if the world owes you one. Parking is not a right - grow up. And parking problem will never be solved under any municipality because it is geometrically impossible. The one to blame is the one who approved such a scope of construction and that is Yona Yahav. But on the other hand, the amount of pressure exerted on the municipality by residents without basic logic (the most common type in the article and here in the comments) who read PR articles by contractors and entrepreneurs about the so-called "shortage of apartments", and then make a fuss about why the municipality does not approve construction, makes planning very difficult Responsible in the authorities. Just look at what Klish gets in the head for stopping or slowing down populist and retarded programs from the Yahav era and you will realize that the ones to blame are the residents, the residents and once again the residents.
Yosef, this was confirmed during Yahav's time. Hell already, you automaton! Try to think once in your life.
And every child grows up and demands more parking.
Error correction: the residents of the neighborhood objected and were rejected.
The suspicions raised were *exactly* those brought up in the article - living on a construction site, lack of infrastructure, lack of parking, streets too narrow for the expected traffic, traffic jams...
Everything was rejected by the Committee for Tichamon.
As someone who lives on Brenner Street and passes Habiva Rake several times a day, I can only pray that the urban renewal does not spill over to my street.
To truly understand the plight, you have to get stuck behind a garbage truck on a street with endless trash cans.
The problem in the neighborhood that makes people own one or more cars. There is no public transportation that goes into all of Habiva Reich, which has over 1500 families, in this place the bus enters Brenner Street, it has one stop there for 80 families. The frequency of public transportation is once every half hour. Which makes people buy more and more cars.
The neighborhood is amazing and fun to live in. If I had to choose again where to live I would choose Habiva Reich
Every tenant had the option to purchase parking and arrive in a calm evening without looking for parking, people tried to lower costs and today they are crying, you have to think about things in advance, there is no value to a house without parking
When will a parking lot be built in Habiva, I didn't understand if it will happen at all..? Shame on the Haifa municipality..that this is how they treat young couples...who are the future of this aging city...shame in the end everyone will move from this city..but unfortunately no one cares....really sad...Kalish wake up
Now they are destroying the center of Carmel. Only on Bikurim Street there are about 6 temaos, and even then there is no parking!
There is also a parking shortage in the French Carmel in Bethlehem and there are no projects there, so they bought a new house and bought another car and still complain?
Even before they started to evacuate, there was no free parking after six in the evening on the entire street.
When they started building stories circulated that the municipality required the contractors to build an underground public parking lot, which of course did not happen and the already crowded street became a corridor with no escape.
When it's all over, have fun and forget what happened
Because if you enjoy what was built.
Happy new year
In the distant past, the municipality was willing to allocate one of the plots to a multi-story parking building that would serve the tenants of the neighboring buildings. This involved a monthly payment for the purpose of paying a 24-hour security guard and maintenance. The construction companies reported that most tenants refuse to sign even though it was a small amount. They agreed to the building but demanded that the municipality finance the maintenance and the guard's salary. Now all the land has been sold to contractors and developers and a high % is built so it seems that this solution is not valid.
Tama - Mithar Oilit plan is what is happening in Haifa also on Berel street we built it full of new houses the road remains the same narrow road that in the future there will also be traffic jams like on Habiva Reik street where the city engineer sleeps standing up the main thing is to approve without thinking about transportation
Don't say you weren't warned. Mainly it is addressed to the old council members who were also in the previous term.
I personally as a member of the local committee and other members and planning experts warned at the time that one must always see the overall view of the entire street, neighborhood and area before rushing to approve "urban renewal" plans and certainly multiple TMA 38 plans in a street or neighborhood in the city.
Even back then, when all the plans were only on the drawing board, we saw how much the large buildings that would be built in Remez levels were going to create an urban concept at the level of Slams. Even then, we saw how easily the uprooting of a huge amount of trees for asphalt fields, including decades-old trees, is approved. Even then we saw the closeness and the sense of suffocation created by the minimal separation distances between large buildings that rise like mushrooms after the rain in a quality neighborhood with a green, modest and airy character.
when construction began
And the destruction of the neighborhood was already clear, I was comforted by the fact that at least we will gain a tangible example here in Haifa, how not to do "urban renewal" and we will learn (at the expense of the unfortunate tenants who live there in Remez) which achievements must not be repeated in other neighborhoods...
But unfortunately they didn't learn anything. It's the same city engineer, it's the same local committee, only that at the head of the city sits a so-called "expert" in planning and urban renewal, and the same achievements were replicated regardless of the change of government in the municipality...
So here is the result right in front of you! The residents are dying to get away... and the contractors?
What is it that interests them...they made the cash a long time ago and in cash, and have already moved on to the next projects! ?
Another one of the megalomaniac projects of Yahav and his fellow contractors.
It is indeed difficult to find parking.
if that's not enough A contractor is selling parking spaces for NIS 132 for NIS 50 in the Pinoy Binoy project. Beloved Reich Haifa.
If that makes sense?
As a resident in most - naturally they only advertise the negative, forget the good - lovely population, young families, spacious parks, woods and even a stream 🙂
Excellent schools, close to everywhere, apartments at absolutely reasonable prices, perhaps the most reasonable prices that have stayed here.
There are indeed problems on the street, but where in Haifa is there not today? Carmelia, Ahuza, the old Romema, Alon, etc., everywhere today there is density, it does not change the dream of building that was here, but by and large, this street is no different from other streets.
The solution is very simple:
Just as a solar heater must be installed for every apartment and it is included in the price of the apartment, new construction or expansion must be approved only if two parking spaces per apartment are installed in the basement, whether the buyer needs it or not
They took a quiet and spacious street and turned it into a beehive. Because the contractors received building permits to build a maximum number of apartments in a minimum area. And now there will be an influx out of the streets and prices will drop. This is how the glory of a street ends.
A very bad project, views between the buildings as if living inside the walls, no view, no ventilation, no parking, a 5-room apartment for 1.8 million? Waste of money. In the plowing they buy a villa on half a dunam at this price
This is how it is when the contractors actually run the city, not to mention the huge profit. Capital rules the underworld, according to what I've heard, there won't be one green lung left in Haifa, everything will be built. Crying for generations
A failed municipality. The most expensive property tax in Israel for the fewest services and services. A masochist who lives in Haifa. we are leaving With heartache, but Haifa is sinking in the years when the country flourishes the most. And all this is a failed leadership on the verge of being allegedly corrupt
And many thanks to Kalish...
Ugh…
And thanks to the mayors for their generations
This is just the beginning, on the way we are going to destroy the quality of life all over the city of Haifa. For example, the destruction of the Neve David neighborhood - the bio monsters and the new cemetery - thousands of new burial places (about half a billion NIS in profits for the right people from the sale of the grave plots) - total destruction of the quality of life in the Neve David neighborhood and the enrichment of those involved (with the exception of the victims - the apartment owners existence).