Elisheva Azoulai - Cohen Lahi Pa:
I demand that they put up "no burning" signs like it says in Hecht Park and on the beach
The Haifa municipality decided to turn the western part of the memorial garden in memory of the fallen in Neve David into a "barbecue park" and even hung a sign in the neighborhood: "A barbecue park will be established here."
First an update for the morning of Thursday, 7/5/20, 07:15:
During the night, various and false rumors (fake news) were spread on the Internet about the fact that, following the exposure of Chai Pa, the Haifa municipality backed out of its decision to build a barbecue park. Regarding these rumors, we hurried and contacted the Haifa Municipality again, early in the morning, and received the following answer:
quote (we didn't touch)
"The renovation will continue as planned, the only thing we will give up, at the request of the residents, is the built-in barbecues (as there are in many parks). That means those who want to cook on the fire will bring a barbecue from home...
Everything else as usual"
A live investigation, which took place in front of the Ministry of Environmental Protection and the Union of Cities for Environmental Protection, reveals that no impact assessment on the environment was done and no contact was made to these bodies, in order to find out the possible impact of the smoke from the barbecues on the quality of life of the residents who live near the park.
It also becomes clear in the live investigation here that no public participation was done with the residents. This did not even come up in the city council, and so the residents woke up this morning to a "celebratory announcement" about the establishment of the park.
The residents explain that the park will become an urban (and not a neighborhood) park, similar to the barbecue park at the student beach. As you know, the student beach is visited by families from all over the city and the whole place is surrounded by smoke in the summer. Now, they explain in Neve David that the fear is that the residents of Carmel will come down to Neve David and also come from nearby settlements, to wave the smoke from the barbecues, straight to the windows of the residents, apparently in violation of the Clean Air Law, and all this under the auspices of the municipality, which not only does not enforce the Air Law Clean, but even encourages breaking the law, according to them.
The residents explain that the clean air law is still not enforced by the municipality, when from time to time people come to light barbecues near the residents' houses in this park and cause them great suffering. If a barbecue park is built, the residents' houses will become uninhabitable, say Neve David.
The Clean Air Act states (and in many cases is not enforced):
Prohibition of air pollution, Section 3, A, states:
"A person shall not cause severe or unreasonable air pollution."
The Haifa Municipality informed Haifa:
The Haifa Municipality refused to be interviewed for the article, but gave the following response:
In total, we move the barbecues away from the upper part of the park to the lower part and regulate the issue of dirt and the disposal of charcoal at the end of use, this is in light of the residents' complaints that the entire park is used for barbecues and that the place is disturbing and dirty.
Video - Residents of the neighborhood in a face to face interview (reported by Roi Haravan)
Video - Usher Takatash in an interview about the barbecue park in Neve David
The Ministry of Environmental Protection reported
The review of the impact of the barbecues on the environment is the responsibility of the Association of Cities for the Protection of the Environment Haifa. The municipality of Haifa did not contact us in this matter and the enforcement is not our responsibility.
The Union of Cities for the Protection of the Environment reported
The Association of Haifa Cities was not asked at all by the Haifa Municipality to address the issue of air pollution in this park, and therefore no tests were conducted. Of course, if your request is received, the union will be happy to examine the matter, and express an opinion.
Hadva Almog's response
Hadva Almog is a member of the city council and was previously the deputy mayor and in charge of the engineering administration.
The mayor, who prided herself on public participation, which she would do on any issue, did engage in public participation with a former member of her faction, Tali Meshulam-Itah, and made an informed decision: to build a barbecue garden, without thinking about the environmental significance of the noise, the smoke.
Attorney David Etzioni gave a speech
(Attorney David Etzioni is the deputy mayor of Haifa)
The Garden of the Fallen must preserve its integrity, that is, preserve the memory of the fallen. The idea for a barbecue park is a nice idea, but a suitable place must be chosen and public participation must be held.
Sofi Nakash gave a message to Lai Fah:
(Sophie Nakash is a member of the Haifa City Council)
The question is whether public participation was held and if this is really the will of the residents? And more importantly, is this something the Neve David neighborhood needs before playgrounds or road resurfacing?
It is understood that a barbecue park becomes a focus for recreation and probably creates related problems, such as smoke, noise, dirt and noise.
I am no longer talking about the fact that the place is a memorial garden in memory of the fallen and it seems a bit inappropriate to turn part of the place into a barbecue park.
I think that if it is a wonderful project, as the city leadership claims, it is appropriate that the pilot should be done near their home first.
In my humble opinion, the Neve David neighborhood does need a lot of things, parks, playgrounds, layers, and more, and it seems to me that a barbecue park is the last thing they need.
CPA Eli Ben Dayan gave a speech
(Eli Ben Dayan is a city council member from the Likud faction and a former resident of the neighborhood)
Once again we discover that the Haifa municipality and its leader excel in opacity, poor planning and blatant disdain for the city's residents. The sign announcing the establishment of a barbecue park in Neve David is so insulting, not only to me personally, who grew up in this neighborhood and to my friends who still live there, this park is an insult to all of us.
The municipality, in its impudence, transfers all the barbecues, pollution and dirt to the residents of the neighborhood and further boasts that they will settle the matter of dirt and pollution in the park. So the Haifa municipality should know that cleaning parks is not a source of pride but a duty for which the city's residents pay taxes!
The municipality needs to understand that such a concentration of air pollution and density of barbecues will only harm and destroy the quality of life and the quality of the air for the residents of the neighborhood. While today the entire park is used for this purpose, the municipality's planning concentrates it only in the lower part and seriously harms the residents of the neighborhood.
Without any testing and without any planning, hang a sign and think that the public buys this insult. My friends and I will not allow Neve David to become the backyard of Carmel!
The residents of Neve David should not find out that when the municipality cleans their environment it is actually a reward as if they are second class citizens. The residents of Neve David are an inseparable part of the city and it is not allowed that the filth and dirt be transferred to them and the municipality will brag that it was done for them and for them!
It is better for the municipality to devote its time and money to helping the local businesses that are suffering from the corona crisis and not to engage in nonsense.
As a former resident of the neighborhood and as someone whose parents live in Neve David and my nuclear family (uncles and cousins) and of course friends and their families, I was amazed to read about the decision to establish a barbecue park in the boys' garden.
First, the garden is evidence of the connection between the old and new residents of the neighborhood and the fallen. Turning it into a play area is the connection between bereavement and the continuity of life, it is the preservation of memory for all of us. The establishment of a barbecue park not only humiliates the residents and makes these scumbags even defiant!
Instead of taking care of diverting resources in the development of the neighborhood in terms of the dilapidated infrastructure and the pigs that are constantly roaming around, the mayor chooses to establish a barbecue park.
The time has come to take care of the commercial area of Neve David and the hazards in the neighborhood and not deal with populism. Maybe the mayor and her deputy think that the establishment of barbecues will bring tourism to Haifa.
I intend to submit a query to the mayor on this issue.
Elisheva Azoulai-Cohen handed over to Hai Fa
(Elysheva is a social activist in the neighborhood and represents the residents)
I would like to mention first the young Ethiopians, residents of the neighborhood, who wrote a letter of protest, which they are now signing the residents of the neighborhood in general and the members of the community in particular.
I have been here in the neighborhood since I was a year old. I grew up all my life on stigmas. People didn't want to take checks from me, when they heard that I was an uncle of David. I am not ready to tolerate this humiliation for any reason.
There is a humiliating attempt here to turn us into barbecuers, to wave at us and silence us at barbecues. It is a stigmatizing act that looks at us as a low socio-economic stratum and uses it against us.
We want a sports park, which will contribute to the culture in the neighborhood.
It is enough to determine the plight of the residents of Neve David. I feel as if we are under the rule of Hamas, which is trying to establish poverty and create dependency between the residents and the government. We are not there!
I want them to treat us with the respect we deserve, because we deserve it. I feel that I am the voice of the residents and will continue to be.
I remind you that Hadova Almog and Yona Yahav changed the name of an existing public garden in the center of Carmel and named it after the person who gave them some divorces. They have no right to speak.
Who in Neve David did Mrs. Kalish listen to? As usual, her former faction member Tali is paid.
You surely remember that Klish treated public activists in the neighborhoods with disdain when she said that they did not represent anyone and no one elected them... so why does Tali Meshulam represent, in Klish's opinion, all the residents of the neighborhood? Was she chosen according to Klish's criteria for representing a neighborhood in front of the municipality? of course not. So why does she ignore all the neighborhood activists as if they were "dust in the wind" and Matli is not paid? This is a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious to you of course
Hey ! stop
You forgot the park in the neglected Shaprintsak next to hospital 10
A green park with lawns but severely neglected in terms of leisure infrastructure such as benches for children, faucets which are basic things! , is in the heart of a residential neighborhood without any maintenance on the park
I grew up in the Neve David neighborhood and since time immemorial the garden has been used by us as a place of remembrance for the martyrs of Israel. Ms. Klish, how do you allow yourself to desecrate the place where we hold memorial services?? How do you allow yourself to build a barbecue park in a place that is so important to us?? We are the people who gave you our vote and elected you and you are simply torturing and hurting us personally each and every one of us!!! I sat in Attorney Goldreich's office and asked people to vote for you!
disgrace !!! that will not happen !! We will resist with all our might!!!
Abnormal insolence, lack of respect and contempt.
What bothers me is that dog parks have promised that this is a daily necessity, a person who has a dog must take it out at least two or three times a day. Not a barbecue once a year, why don't they set up dog parks, it's not enough that they don't set up, even if you go for a walk in the neighborhood with a dog, suddenly a herd of pigs appears and whoop the trip is over.
Direction signs.
There should be signs for the kona in Neve David in Haifa. Fires should not be lit. There was neglect in this neighborhood.
Directional signs should be placed in Neve David in Haifa.
Because what nature doesn't do, our Elisheva does!!!!!
As someone who was born in Neveh David, I would like to say that our neighborhood has always been neglected and we have been discriminated against! So it's time to restore the neighborhood and not trample it (with a barbecue park)
Again, the same pattern of conduct: announcing the project with great fanfare (as a resident of the neighborhood said, "They accused Yahav of putting up signs? Look at the construction of signage they put up here"), and again, the lack of public participation: it is interesting that no one in the municipality thought to consult First with a representation of the residents of the neighborhood. (Tali Meshulam Itach, the resident of the neighborhood who initiated the move, does not represent anyone except perhaps herself. She served as a council member on behalf of Einat Kalish's "Haim Be Haifa" list in the previous term. Before the last elections, she set out on her own and founded a new "Heart of the Neighborhoods" list. As part of the agreement she signed with Klish, it was agreed that she would support Klish for mayor and Shatham for her deputy. The new list did not pass the blocking percentage and Itach did not enter the council. As a consolation prize and in recognition of her support, the mayor designated her the chairmanship of the board of directors of Shakmona, a city government company for the management of public housing in Haifa. However, in the end, the appointment was not carried out, fortunately for the residents of Haifa...) In addition, no survey was conducted on the impact of noise and smoke hazards on the air quality and the quality of life of the neighborhood's residents. And finally, how much opacity and insensitivity can be discovered when you decide to build a barbecue park next to a memorial garden for the fallen members of the neighborhood? As always, we are witnessing the sloppy conduct of Einat Kalish and the Haifa municipality. Zigzag, pulling from the waist, announcing with great fanfare the establishment of the park, then following the protest of the citizens, the residents of the neighborhood and the bereaved parents, folding and going back on the decision. A year and a half in her position and the mayor has yet to learn that the end of an action is the first thought.
I sympathize with Eli Ben Dayan and trust his words.
Gan Zichron and the area adjacent to it is not a place for barbecues and entertainment. The garden of remembrance must be expanded and the memory of the fallen must be respected.
The Neve David neighborhood from the 1950's and the 1950's reminds of the shabby neighborhoods and housing estates. When will this neighborhood be taken care of?
It actually seems that the place was chosen carefully...with intelligent planning.
In Dania or Carmel, there were no dares.. the residents there are strong.. on the Carmel beach they prefer paid parking..
It seems to be easier, in David's camp... anyway, David is busy surviving.
For a long time there has been no "mangalists" activity in the boys' kindergarten in Neve-David. There is no access from the main road, no parking and no tools to collect garbage there.
The mayor is planning a noisy public dump for us and suffocating smoke throughout the neighborhood.
There was nothing like this in any neighborhood in the city.
What was canceled in the well-kept and preserved Hecht Promenade, the municipality wants to transfer by surprise and without consideration to our neighborhood!
Elisheva. chatty What does Hamas rule have to do with it?