Nour Eldan will serve as the head of the establishment of the "Mi Carmel" corporation
The municipality of Haifa wishes to bring the corporation into operation in the coming months. In this framework, Eldan will work to speed up the necessary actions for the procedures of establishing and operating the corporation that will be responsible for all the water infrastructures in the city.
At the same time, Eldan will continue to serve as the head of operations in the municipality until a permanent CEO is selected for the corporation by the company's board of directors.
A tender for the CEO of the corporation will be published immediately after receiving the approvals required to operate the corporation from the Register of Companies and the Commissioner for Water Corporations.
The articles of association of the water corporation, the corporation's assets and its establishment agreements were approved by the Haifa municipal council at its last meeting and were transferred to the commissioner of
The corporations in the water administration in order to obtain a license to operate the water corporation
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[quote="Matanya Tiktinsky":2upodi3u]I have been trying for more than a week to inform about my defective water clock that does not work and as a result I get an estimate and not a real consumption, but there is no one to talk to. Water suppliers seem to give you such a simple and basic service.
The appropriate party for handling public inquiries is the Public Inquiries Department of the Haifa Municipality. Contact them with your question. I would appreciate it if you could update us all on what their answer is, how long it took for them to answer you, and how long they undertake to provide you with an adequate solution... and on the 27th, I hope you will answer as soon as possible according to your expectations...
Best regards,
Yaron Hanan
[quote="ronbarak":2pkb2glh]Now, with the establishment of the "Carmel Water" corporation, which stated in a letter to residents that all its profits will be directed to the water and sewage infrastructure,
Let's hope that plans will be accepted to separate the sewage system in Haifa from the rainwater removal system, so that it is possible
Rainwater will be used as gray water (for irrigation for example) or purified and turned into drinking water.
Of course, sewage treatment is cheaper than sewage treatment - and better than discharging the rainwater (together with the sewage) into the sea.
I am a water and soil engineer. The statements written here are incorrect due to lack of knowledge. I will explain.
The sewage system is designed to remove the city's wastewater. Also, it is used to dispose of quantities Small of water from the roads. When there is serious rain, the water is supposed to flow on the sides of the roads (the road has small slopes on the sides) to the sea. No drainage system is designed to withstand even moderate rain as this requires huge conduits as the amount of water during rain is very high in a short time unlike sewage which flows in a small stream for a long time and therefore the sewage system does not require a particularly large cross-sectional area. Regarding the quality of the rainwater, when there is low-intensity rain, it washes toxic oils off the roads and this water is also unusable for irrigation, and purifying it to the level of irrigation water can be more expensive than purifying sewage water to the level of irrigation water. As for rainwater when there is moderate or heavy rain, this is good water because the oils from the roads have already been washed away. This water flows on the roads. There is no practical technical ability to transport this water (requires huge pipelines) and there is no ability to store it (requires huge water reservoirs that have nowhere to build them). The best method for utilizing rainwater is to transport it and spread it in specially built public gardens (sand bed) in order to allow rapid percolation of the water into the subsoil for approval of Israel's freshwater reservoir. Places of this type exist in Israel mainly in abandoned quarries and I am proud of Israel that we make the effort to utilize this water. I will point out that the road system, since it is used as a main drainage system, should be designed according to hydraulic principles, something that does not take place in Israel due to a lack of knowledge and other considerations that are more important in the eyes of road planners. This is no different from the situation in the rest of the world and it is natural.
[quote="irir":6nzi2c11]For the Hi-Pe system, either I'm wrong, or you're wrong. If I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you are wrong, what is so difficult to write, we were wrong?
Your lack of response is simply bullshit. Such behavior is really not suitable for your site.
To the best of my knowledge, the new stadium that will be built in Haifa is not designed to collect and store rainwater.
And those who claim otherwise, are asked to bring proof written on the planning company's paper.
Hi, I'm a water and soil engineer, I'm not a representative of the stadium company but I can respond to you very intelligently.
The reason why tanks were not planned under the stadium is that there is no need to store water in tanks. Israel's water system is conducted underground. I mean, water seeps into the ground and when we need it, we pump it from there in wells. The underground has a huge pooling capacity. There is no ability to store water in the form of tanks or reservoirs as this would require huge areas. A problem can arise when the water in the subsoil (aquifer) is contaminated (mostly sea water or fuel, oil infiltration) and then it is impossible to use the water that has seeped in because it is contaminated. What the planners should have checked with a geologist is whether the water seeping from the stadium reaches the aquifer with good water and I hope they did check. Regarding watering, this means that before the water seeps in, it irrigates the grass. Well, that's clear.
Regarding the observance of the principles of green construction, the first principle of green construction is that you should check all the options (in contrast to conventional construction that follows pre-prepared drawings) in terms of feasibility and not run and put expensive accessories for nothing.
Hope the answer is sufficient.
I have been trying for more than a week to inform about my defective water meter that does not work and as a result I get an estimate and not a real consumption, but there is no one to talk to, maybe in correspondence, salvation will come.
The price of a cubic meter for domestic consumption consists of approximately half of the water consumption and a sewage fee for the disposal of the consumed water.
This was the case in the account statement until now in the old method.
With this method, the garden water will be priced only according to the amount of water and without a sewage fee because this water is not disposed of in the sewage system
Rather, they are usually used for watering gardens (or vehicles...) and cleaning the common area.
In Carmel Water's accounts, they combined the water and sewer rates into one common rate and in a stinking combination according to a method
This is why we pay a double rate for shared consumption, including the sewage rate, unjustly...
In short, they put a tax on us in the form of...
Does anyone know anything about this?
The municipality is asked to respond to what is happening here
Or will Schnor Eldan himself explain why they worked on our eyes under the pretext of improvement?
Your evasion exercises continue. If you don't know, don't just write unfounded things.
It is not clear to me what statement of intentions you are talking about, and where you got the statement you are talking about.
I repeat again:
To the best of my knowledge, the new stadium that will be built in Haifa is not designed to collect and store rainwater.
And those who claim otherwise, are asked to bring proof written on the planning company's paper.
IRIR
We have no information about the exact planning of the stadium, but only about the statement of intentions.
We have no information if there is already an exact plan for the stadium.
If we have information about the detailed planning then we will post it here with pleasure.
We don't know everything...
"live here" system
For the live-mouth system, either I'm wrong, or you're wrong. If I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you are wrong, what is so difficult to write, we were wrong?
Your lack of response is simply bullshit. Such behavior is really not suitable for your site.
To the best of my knowledge, the new stadium that will be built in Haifa is not designed to collect and store rainwater.
And those who claim otherwise, are asked to bring proof written on the planning company's paper.
[quote="guest":26tprgwf][quote="angry resident":26tprgwf]Establishing the corporation and electing the man to head it is a disaster for the city and its residents!!!! As evidenced by the water bills and the common consumption which is more expensive
Residents will wake up in a wide and beautiful public protest one hour before...
According to the municipality's announcement, the establishment of the municipality was obliged by law to establish a water corporation.
I have a feeling that this is "mini-privatization", an intermediate step on the way to full privatization of the issue of water supply in the country.
You should know that in countries where huge international corporations entered the water issue, such as Veolia, Suez and the like, the service became more expensive
tens of percent and there are plenty of problems in the maintenance of the lines. In some countries, the governments were forced to re-nationalize the system
Because millions were not connected to water supply or did not meet payments that became more expensive than they could afford. There was also an attempt in Israel
To lead the privatization of sources with international corporations which we are happy to have stopped so far. Note that Evelia has already entered the country
in transportation and infrastructure issues, and looking to expand into the water infrastructure issue! The capital tycoons in the country "smell" a pot and they didn't say any more
the last word and established "water technology companies" whose occupation is to try to convince the state to privatize
the issue of water supply. Meanwhile the municipal corporations are governmental, but woe betide us if in the course of time they try to privatize them.
As long as they are governmental, close civil supervision must be carried out on water prices, on who performs repairs, what is privatized for subcontractors,
What is not specified - from my experiences, this issue is going to be "with us" for a long, long time and supervision of water bills is only the tip of the iceberg.
Those who are interested in expanding their education on the subject and knowing what we are up against are welcome to search the internet and YouTube for the film
Flow – For Love of Water
[quote="angry resident":2m36wb3r]Establishing the corporation and electing the man to head it is a disaster for the city and its residents!!!! As evidenced by the water bills and the common consumption which is more expensive
Residents will wake up in a wide and beautiful public protest one hour before...
According to the municipality's announcement, the establishment of the municipality was obliged by law to establish a water corporation.
I have a feeling that this is "mini-privatization", an intermediate step on the way to full privatization of the issue of water supply in the country.
You should know that in countries where huge international corporations entered the water issue, such as Veolia, Suez and the like, the service became more expensive
tens of percent and there are plenty of problems in the maintenance of the lines. In some countries, the governments were forced to re-nationalize the system
Because millions were not connected to water supply or did not meet payments that became more expensive than they could afford. There was also an attempt in Israel
To lead the privatization of sources with international corporations which we are happy to have stopped so far. Note that Evelia has already entered the country
in transportation and infrastructure issues, and looking to expand into the water infrastructure issue! The capital tycoons in the country "smell" a pot and they didn't say any more
the last word and established "water technology companies" whose occupation is to try to convince the state to privatize
the issue of water supply. Meanwhile the municipal corporations are governmental, but woe betide us if in the course of time they try to privatize them.
As long as they are governmental, close civil supervision must be carried out on water prices, on who performs repairs, what is privatized for subcontractors,
What is not specified - from my experiences, this issue is going to be "with us" for a long, long time and supervision of water bills is only the tip of the iceberg.
I mean the water bills in the previous message
The establishment of the corporation and the election of the man at its head is a disaster for the city and its residents!!!! As evidenced by the water bills and the common consumption which is more expensive
Residents will wake up in a wide and beautiful public protest one hour before...
Hai-Mah Shalom system. I repeat, the reference you refer to says (emphasis mine)
"What they didn't tell us is that he is No Meets the criteria for sustainable green construction"
The whole list that appears there describes what Must to do and not what They mean perform in the stadium. Where do you have the breakdown of what you mean? do in the stadium? Whether they realize it or not is another story.
Good Morning.
[quote="irir":3lv23kur]To the members of the Hai-Pa system: Did you imagine the Haifa municipality? Are you being asked a question and not bothering to answer?
IRIR Hello,
In the link we provided, the subject of rainwater storage is described in section 6: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=540&start=0#p2185" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Of course we don't know if it will be carried out, but on paper it exists, so we didn't see fit to ask this question to the municipality.
If other questions arise, we will consider contacting the municipality.
Good evening, "Live here" system
To the members of the Hai-Pe system: Did you imagine the Haifa municipality? Are you being asked a question and not bothering to answer?
No, there is absolutely no reference.
This is exactly what Mr. Galbhart is warning about and rightly so.
The location of the building and the planning of the development and the landscape around it in a way that will allow maximum utilization of water
Rain for irrigation or for injecting into the groundwater and will ensure its integration into the landscape
The interpretation of utilizing rainwater for irrigation is to produce large underground storage tanks under the stadium area or the parking areas,
into which huge amounts of rainwater drain from the roof and the surfaces of the building. It is customary in many countries today, but it requires
Early planning and this requires planning the roof and the piping system in an efficient way to the storage tanks. It's not something at the end
The construction of the roof is simply carried out from the outside using the regular excavator method and a pipe system, this should be an integral part of the planning of
The roof and the other surfaces of the building and of course the first step in the construction is the burying of the storage tanks, which must be planned in advance and I
I'm already telling you that they didn't think about it in the planning and didn't include it in the planning and when it comes to such a large building with such a roof space
A large one that absorbs water like the roofs of an entire neighborhood, so it is impossible to put up with the "it will be fine" method.
Live-in system, although in the reference you gave there is a reference to the stadium, but where did you find that the answer is yes??? Did you skip the line (emphasis mine):
"What they didn't tell us is that he is No Meets the criteria for sustainable green construction"?
Hello Geronimo,
There is a reference to the issue of rainwater storage in the new stadium here:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=540&start=0#p2185" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It seems the answer to your question is "yes"
"live here" system
And I ask again: today it is accepted in countries like Israel to enact strict laws for storing rainwater.
They are building a huge stadium here that can absorb a very large amount of water from its roof that can be used to irrigate the grass.
In Australia, for example, in new stadiums that are now being built, huge underground tanks are planned under the stadiums that store rainwater
from the stadium and surrounding parking lots and then water the stadium with them.
Is there a rainwater storage tank planned for the new stadium planned in Haifa?!
Why didn't anyone raise this issue in the municipality in the discussion about the stadium?!
This is the minimum of the minimum of green construction!!
Asking the Hai-Fah website to contact the "Stadium Company" and the planners on behalf of the Haifa Economic Company -
Now they are at the foundation stage - it is still possible to integrate it into the planning!! Someone has to take responsibility here because it's a mistake!
And I ask again: today it is accepted in countries like Israel to enact strict laws for storing rainwater.
They are building a huge stadium here that can absorb a very large amount of water from its roof that can be used to irrigate the grass.
In Australia, for example, in new stadiums that are now being built, huge underground tanks are planned under the stadiums that store rainwater
from the stadium and surrounding parking lots and then water the stadium with them.
Is there a rainwater storage tank planned for the new stadium planned in Haifa?!
Why didn't anyone raise this issue in the municipality in the discussion about the stadium?!
This is the minimum of the minimum of green construction!!
Now that the "Carmel Water" corporation is being established, which stated in a letter to residents that all its profits will be directed to the water and sewage infrastructure,
Let's hope that plans will be accepted to separate the sewage system in Haifa from the rainwater removal system, so that it is possible
Rainwater will be used as gray water (for irrigation for example) or purified and turned into drinking water.
Of course, sewage treatment is cheaper than sewage treatment - and better than discharging the rainwater (together with the sewage) into the sea.
Now that the "Carmel Water" Corporation has been established, which stated in a letter to the residents that all its profits will be directed to the water and sewer infrastructure, we hope that plans will be accepted to separate the sewage system in Haifa from the rainwater removal system, so that the rainwater can be used as gray water for irrigation or purified and turned into drinking water.
Of course, sewage treatment is cheaper than sewage treatment - and better than discharging the rainwater (together with the sewage) into the sea.
Nour Eldan Cannon.
An excellent choice when you need to push something forward in this city.